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Many Conservatives Were Shocked By Ann Coulter
RightWingNews.com ^ | 7 Feb 2012 | Steve Baldwin

Posted on 04/16/2012 8:50:09 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: SoConPubbie

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21 posted on 04/16/2012 9:36:19 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Sopater

This isn’t a slam on Romney, but Coulter jumped the shark for me a while ago. She just lobs verbal grenades now and sounds crazy. She is actually hurting the conservative movement because he nutty behavior is fodder for the liberals chattering away on TV. Ann should take her millions and quietly retire until she has something useful to say again.


22 posted on 04/16/2012 9:40:58 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: allmendream

We don’t have to use the “point of the sword” to convert them (though there were a few of those in Europe during the dark ages that worked out okay...).

Kill their leaders (and I mean the Imams, too) and disrupt the organizations that prevent conversion and threaten the missionaries and the converts, then let events take their natural course.

We have a better message than the Moslems, if we can protect those who preach it and those who convert.

We preach in advance of the Army,
We skirmish ahead of the Church,
With never a gunboat to help us
When we’re scuppered and left in the lurch.


23 posted on 04/16/2012 9:44:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Astronaut

ANY “woman” who let’s Bill Maher put his d*** in her...is and never has been a Conservative.


24 posted on 04/16/2012 9:52:56 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
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To: Astronaut

ANY “woman” who let’s Bill Maher put his d*** in her...is not and never has been a Conservative.


25 posted on 04/16/2012 9:53:32 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
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To: allmendream
I was unaware that Christian doctrine included conversion at the ‘point of a sword’.

Pope Benedict begins his book Introduction to Christianity with just this subject. Central to it is credo or I believe. This he contrasts to Judaism and adherence to the Law or pre-christian Rome making ritual central to their religion. But Ann is not a Catholic.

26 posted on 04/16/2012 9:55:41 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: SoConPubbie

A “side note” on how a conservative could support an individual mandate.

Step 1 - Congress repeals the 1980’s laws that requires Hospitals/Emergency Rooms that they must treat everyone, regardless of their ability to pay. If someone shows up in the ER - the ER must stabilize...and assess the ability of the person to pay for treatment. (If the individual has no coverage and there is no charitable organization willing to cover treatment, the ER can turn the individual out with not further treatment.)

Step 2 - Congress passes a “mandate” that people need to buy an insurance policy that covers low risk/high cost procedures, emergency medical treatment due to accidents, etc. No coverage - no treatment. There would be no efforts to track down to see if people have coverage - if they don’t have coverage and need treatment and they can’t pay for it (and no family or church or ?? will guarantee the coverage) - then - too bad - no treatment.

Step 3 - Congress mandates that hospitals/doctors not engage in cost-shifting. Everyone should be charged the same, regardless of payment out of pocket or payment by 3rd party insurance. Perhaps some minor discounts for prompt pay, volume discounts, etc. - but the goal should be to stop charging individuals 2 to 3 times what an insurance company is billed for the same procedure.

Imagine if gas stations had the same policy - you pump first, and when you pay, you are charged based on information available about you ....some might pay $10/gallon, while others pay $3/gallon, while Juan goes in and pumps gas and drives away, not having to pay anything! It is blatantly wrong to do this!

Now - am I for an individual mandate - YES - if described above.

When states mandate that insurance companies must include all sorts of “boutique” treatments that are unrelated to what insurance is about - I am disgusted that it should be un-Constitutional at the state level. When states mandate that insurance coverage should be offered with no exclusions for pre-existing conditions - again, I am outraged. How about a “super surcharge” that elevates the cost of insurance for 5 years or so to anyone who didn’t have coverage or dropped coverage - so that the insurance company can re-coup costs from the person who tried to game the system.

There are conservative approaches to fix the health care system ...I just don’t see them being discussed.


27 posted on 04/16/2012 10:08:36 AM PDT by Vineyard
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To: sirchtruth
Ann is probably another David Brock. At the very least she is heading down that road...

and David Brock never had to confront menopause...


28 posted on 04/16/2012 10:16:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TMA62
The problem with Coulter as well as with people like Neal Bortz is that they look at anyone who has an “R” next to their name is good and anyone with a “D” next to their name is bad.

Doesn't explain why she trashed every conservative in the 2008 and 2012 primaries, usually by picking stuff out from their records and saying it made them "liberals" while praising Mitt and calling him the truest conservative in the race.

29 posted on 04/16/2012 10:32:40 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: TMA62
“The problem with ... people like Neal Bortz is that they look at anyone who has an “R” next to their name is good ...”

Clearly, you haven't listened very often (or very carefully) to Boortz. He rails against big-government Rs more vehemently than against big-government Ds because the former are hypocrites.

30 posted on 04/16/2012 10:38:07 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: SoConPubbie

All true.

I don’t get Ann and her liberal fetish for Romney/Christie. You could both of them together and they still wouldn’t make a conservative. It’s like everything she said previously was a lie.

And I really like Ann Coulter...or did.


31 posted on 04/16/2012 10:38:38 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Vineyard
There are conservative approaches to fix the health care system ...I just don’t see them being discussed.

None of what you discuss expands the power of government and/or bureaucrats. 

That is why you won't hear democrats or republicans talking about it.

32 posted on 04/16/2012 11:02:39 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: SoConPubbie

My feeling, that explains it all for me, is that Ann has an undetected brain tumor.


33 posted on 04/16/2012 11:08:17 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (chirping birds + basket weavers who sit + smile + twiddle their thumbs + toes They're coming to take)
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To: SoConPubbie
Recall, Ann did the speech at the homo convention a while back.

Face it, Obamacare, Romneycare, isn't about getting grandma a heart bypass operation, it's about (us) paying for the extended care of AIDS and HIV positive patients, and hiding the expenses in with the skinned knees and banged up elbows...

34 posted on 04/16/2012 11:10:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Vineyard
How about a “super surcharge” that elevates the cost of insurance for 5 years or so to anyone who didn’t have coverage or dropped coverage - so that the insurance company can re-coup costs from the person who tried to game the system.

I carry catastrophic care (high per event deductible) and pay out of pocket. You would deny me that choice?

I'm not 'gaming a system' I'm choosing what is the most economical package that covers my needs.

There are conservative approaches to fix the health care system ...I just don’t see them being discussed.

Mandating I buy health insurance is not Conservative. Fining me for not paying for something I don't need is not Conservtive, either. So, I agree, I haven't seen any conservative approaches discussed, either.

35 posted on 04/16/2012 11:24:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Little Ray
Ah contrair!!!...it accomplishes alot for the next generation!!.....are u interested in doing 3-4 at a time???

(think it over..it will take u a second or two.....but you'll get it...;.*G*)

36 posted on 04/16/2012 6:46:06 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Smokin' Joe

Absolutely NOT. Read again what I proposed. You, carrying high catastrophic health care insurance and paying out of your pocket for smaller (and expected) expenses is EXACTLY the idea that should be permitted. YOU HAVE INSURANCE. But - many states won’t allow such programs - very very wrong, IMHO...and ObamaCare would MANDATE you carry boutique health care insurance that covers all sorts of stuff you don’t want or need ...or want to try to afford.

And go back and read what I said ....if you failed to carry insurance - no fine, no harm, no hassle - but if you showed up at the ER without insurance - they could turn you away. (And you might die...but it would be your fault for not getting some sort of insurance.) SO YOU would be faced with consequences of not having insurance, not others who would have gotten “stuck” with paying for your “free-ride” if you wanted treatment but had not gotten insurance!

The “super surcharge” concept is that if there are “mandates” (which I am opposed to) for insurance companies to issue insurance to people who have expensive pre-existing conditions - then the individuals should be stuck with extra fees to recoup the money they tried to save by scamming the system.


37 posted on 04/16/2012 10:11:05 PM PDT by Vineyard
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