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To: Peter from Rutland

This doesn’t seal it.

‘Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.’

That negates any self defense argument in my book.


5 posted on 03/26/2012 8:53:24 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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‘Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.’

That negates any self defense argument in my book.


So, according to you, if you get out of your car, and follow someone acting suspiciously, you forfeit the right to self defense??? Do you seriously mean what you just said? That is just a terrible thing to say, and the implications of what you said are staggering.
96 posted on 03/26/2012 9:32:53 AM PDT by jjsheridan5
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I once followed a group of black kids who had vandalized a building while talking with dispatch. I was in my car and was getting yelled at (and yelling back at the kids) while on the phone.

My exact words were “Shut up, I’m trying to talk to the police.”

One of them broke my windshield and some reinforcements from the hood came by.

When the cops arrived, it was amazing how fast everyone hit the ground when they noticed laser pointed at their chests.

The prosecutor asked if I suffered any psychological harm. I said that I don’t suffer psychologically by doing the right thing.


104 posted on 03/26/2012 9:35:24 AM PDT by cyclotic (People who live within their means are increasingly being forced to pay for people who didn't.)
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To: AlmaKing
Fortunately, your book has exactly zero value in reality.

I've seen your posts on this subject and I feel you are mistaken in your beliefs, but you are welcome to them.

106 posted on 03/26/2012 9:37:05 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: AlmaKing

‘Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.’

That negates any self defense argument in my book.


Does that mean that you think people should ignore suspicious people and activities?
Our society is so feminized that most men today are afraid to confront s suspicious character and possibly prevent that person from ACTUALLY doing possible harm to someone or someone’s property.

Do nothing. Say nothing. Accept the consequences of letting criminals (etc) have free access to your community and possibly to your family or friends and neighbors.

A simple challenge of a suspicious character could possibly prevent an incident & “if” the person is innocent he would possibly appreciate the fact that there are concerned people who are watching and protecting the neighborhood and its residents.


109 posted on 03/26/2012 9:39:42 AM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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That negates any self defense argument in my book.

Following someone is not illegal and does not cause you to lose your self-defense rights if the person subsequently turns around and attacks you from behind.

115 posted on 03/26/2012 9:45:29 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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"That negates any self defense argument in my book."

Not so. Zimmerman claims he lost sight of Martin and was returning to his SUV when he was attacked by Martin. If Martin did indeed punch Zimmerman in the nose, then pummeled him on the ground as witnesses claim, self-defense is indeed an argument, since it would appear that Martin escalated the incident.

121 posted on 03/26/2012 9:53:47 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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You must be reading this idiots book.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/25/santorum-zimmerman-has-a-very-sick-mind-motive-a-malicious-one/


162 posted on 03/26/2012 10:39:12 AM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: AlmaKing
Well LamaKing, your “book” does not count, unless you are selected as a juror.

With TMartin striking the first blow, regardless of any words spoken or actions taken by GZimmerman, it became self defense on GZimmerman’s part.

A sucker punch by TMartin makes a response by GZimmerman self-defense, in the eyes of the law.

188 posted on 03/26/2012 11:49:53 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: AlmaKing

Please hang up and try again.


193 posted on 03/26/2012 12:27:33 PM PDT by Tahoe3002
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That negates any self defense argument in my book.

How do you figure it negates self defense? The kid attacked him, since when is it ok to attack someone who was following you? Not only that Zimmerman had stopped following and was leaving the area. All the kid had to do was to go home and he would have been fine. However, he had to play outraged minority and attack Zimmerman. What do you suggest Zimmerman should have done after being knocked down and having his head slammed into the sidewalk plus having a fist slamming into his face(all corroborated by witnesses, BTW), lie there until he died so he could prove he was being attacked? The kid brought this on himself by following the black males "code" of not being "dissed". It is plain that he got angry and wanted to teach the cracker a lesson.

If you are in fear for your life, you don't follow someone and attack them.

197 posted on 03/26/2012 1:55:28 PM PDT by calex59
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