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Pixels Don't Lie
March 4, 2012 | Linda Jordan

Posted on 03/04/2012 11:50:20 AM PST by ethical

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To: Tex-Con-Man

You’re saying Obama hired the Orly Taitz of forgers?

What is he supposed to do put an ad in the New York times for an accomplished BC forger? Obama is incompetent at everything he does, what makes you think he would know a good forger from a bad one? The forger probably came to him from a small group of loyalists and offered his services. Maybe the forger intentionally made massive errors to expose the fraud...held back copies and info and after the doc came out as a fraud advised Obama if anything happened to him proof would go to all the right wing conservatives , Arpaio etc and nail Obama...Talk about a forger being able to blackmail Obama...the forger would have to hold back evidence to protect himself, and why not do a little blackmail while he was at it? You need to watch more TV.

Need to narrow it down to Hawaii or not Hawaii and go from there.


61 posted on 03/04/2012 9:53:53 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: MrShoop

roflmao Nathan Goulding. I think he even admitted he was wrong.
http://www.colombospace.com/Youtube/-vkhJNi9GD8


62 posted on 03/04/2012 10:03:30 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: HMS Surprise

I have no idea what you are talking about, I think you posted your reply to the wrong person, I should respond with a bunny wearing a pancake on it’s head, but I really can’t be bothered.


63 posted on 03/04/2012 10:05:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

A PURPOSEFUL forgery. For the SSkeptic, it is all about protecting institutions by any means necessary. The Obama Birth Certificate is one such serious example and form of a Fake-Hoax, albeit slightly different in its logic from the Strange Sounds video issue. A copy of the birth certificate with 17 or more OBVIOUS evidences of inconsistency/apparent adjustments was released to the public last year. The layer tampering was so obvious, that to the reasonable public mind, surely anyone seeking to release a fake birth certificate would never commit such errors. A presumption is therefore foisted by the SSkeptic Cabal, that the errors must have been committed at the originating Hawaii offices back from 1961, and whether fraud or not, therefore a more legitimate birth certificate cannot be located. In this brilliant strategy, the fake-hoax version of the birth certificate exonerates the publishers of the certificate from any crime, as they would be stupid to release such a fake, were they indeed ill-intentioned – and we, the victims are left fully unable to ascertain the truth in the matter. Take as Deskeption closure this ‘fall right in line’ statement by Nathan Goulding in the National Register Online from April 27, 2011, concerning the certificate

“What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers (with the apparent errors)… Let’s leave it at that.”

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

– Deskeptor

http://deskeption.wordpress.com/tag/debunked-videos/


64 posted on 03/04/2012 10:08:12 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: PA-RIVER

Well, good luck with that.


65 posted on 03/04/2012 10:42:57 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: HMS Surprise

What facts are there that it is fake? Is there anything but some graphical artifacts that can more easily be explained by actually using the software? Please tell.


66 posted on 03/04/2012 11:02:55 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop
Here is an example National Review put together, showing how a scanning to a pdf will create layers as seen in the obama cert. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

Strange that the example in the cite has ONLY ONE layer unlike Obama's COLB posted by the White House.

Go look at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93cullaHRQc

or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1YdQ8uwxXQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIMsSEAkYc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haiRCLItdEQ&feature=player_embedded How do you explain away the straight 'Male' and 'Kapiolani' as a software issue or other such nonsense? That one thing alone clearly indicates fake added material to Obama's COLB!!

67 posted on 03/04/2012 11:44:08 PM PST by dickmc
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To: MrShoop

Fact: I downloaded the PDF file directly from the White House website myself. Fact: The layering (read: alterations) are not arbitrary, they are specific. A computer doesn’t know to pick out objects that would necessarily need alteration. Even less than stellar minds can differentiate from noise and intelligent design. Fact: Adobe software design experts were employed by Arpaio’s research team. Did you hear any protests from them about the findings? Fact: You have a strange political affectation; I would call it 5th Columnitis.


68 posted on 03/05/2012 12:02:08 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: MrShoop

Last fact... There is only one thing on FR tonight that is more disingenuous than Obama’s false BC: You.


69 posted on 03/05/2012 12:03:50 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: rolling_stone

You are correct. First Goulding makes the mistake of assuming that there was a great conspiracy. More likely that an Obama tool at arm’s length manufactured it, presented it to a flapper in the White House, and was delighted that he/she didn’t have to offer an explanation about its origins. Politicians are expert at parsing language with themselves for cover. Hawaii wasn’t called, and Hawaii never asked. The acceptance was guaranteed precisely because it is an outrageously audacious act.


70 posted on 03/05/2012 12:10:15 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
This somehow makes sense to you when the corrupt Hawaiian officials could have simply forged a new... perfect... document.

What makes you think that the 1961 typewriter still exists ..or that a similar one could be found? ..or that those forms still exist in that exact match. How do propose to insert it in the existing microfilm roll or if film to make a duplicate, but alternate, roll is still made? The forger probably had to do it electronically.

71 posted on 03/05/2012 12:16:33 AM PST by dickmc
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To: dickmc
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=1961+typewriter
72 posted on 03/05/2012 7:11:12 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: MrShoop

thanks for posting and commenting

how did i not see that?

source please.

thanks.


73 posted on 03/05/2012 7:20:15 AM PST by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

As absurd as it seems, I believe that yes, obummer was in fact limited in his forgery resources. You can’t just farm out a top secret project like that, without putting yourself at risk. Plus, the number of people willing to risk prison (and possible treason charges?) narrows the pool considerably.

I’m guessing bark had to ask someone in the inner circle to make the doc. Knowing he could count on most of the media to ignore it anyway, and threatening (breitbarting) the ones who refused.


74 posted on 03/05/2012 8:13:04 AM PST by mills044 (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: mills044
That's one of the funniest contradictions in the Birther contradiction-verse.

Present a hypothesis (such as numerous forged government records and an associated cover-up) that if true would require a massive conspiracy which would have to involve near a dozen government agencies, both major political parties as well a many, many people.

But then to rationalize a completely different point they might say things like: “You can’t just farm out a top secret project like that, without putting yourself at risk. Plus, the number of people willing to risk prison (and possible treason charges?) narrows the pool considerably.”

75 posted on 03/05/2012 8:39:59 AM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: mills044
Again...

You're suggesting Obama is willing to assassinate a high profile conservative thorn in his side, but somehow an amateur hack Photoshop forger can inexplicably blackmail the president into sparing his life.

This scenario is more plausible to you than the simple explanation that extracting layers from an unlayered digital image file, an old technology, is actually what happened?

76 posted on 03/05/2012 9:05:18 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: HMS Surprise

I’m sorry you don’t understand scanning and OCR, but if you did a little searching you’d see that what happens is that when a document is scanned that the software attempts to separate the text into different layers, then it applies a filter to sharpen the text, which is why you get the blocky result. It is easy to understand if you look at the original image I posted. You can’t merge the layers and get to that image, which is more detailed to the PDF. The PDF had to come from the scan.


77 posted on 03/05/2012 10:48:11 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: kralcmot

It was released the same day as the PDF, and published by AP. The link I embedded was from a secondary source, Boston NPR, which was just the first link I came across in google image search.


78 posted on 03/05/2012 10:56:38 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Yes, I am. I’m guessing obummer’s blackberry can find a trusted chicago “luca brasi” in the blink of an eye. Computer experts however, who are able to produce a flawless forgery? Interestingly, that particular trait might be harder to find, in the Chicago mob.


79 posted on 03/05/2012 12:42:17 PM PST by mills044 (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“What forger would put together a document using this bizarre cut and paste, layering method...and then forget to merge the layers or flatten the image?” - TCM

This one did.
Ask Judith L Corely, my guess is that she knows exactly who did it.

Oh, and since the White House could not send out an RFP for an expert LFCOLB forger, they had to make due with the best they could find and trust - if they were going to create a forgery. IMO the best option was someone at a law firm (lawyer/client priviledge) that already knew the truth. The firm working on this issue with Obama is Perkins Coie. Judtih Corely is the attorney that, I think, went to HI to pick-up the LFCOLBS. (She is the one that wrote the letter to HI that is posted on the White House site.)

You knew that though, right?


80 posted on 03/05/2012 1:04:21 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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