[wintertime]

See, though, they won’t let you take the reasonable position. It grates on their very core you could say some vaccines are too risky, or too many are given at one time, to such a small body that has a very new and unused immune system. If you’re against mandating vaccines to girls for sexual activity you’re committing child abuse by not getting it, basically.

You are conflating two problems.

But... You are correct, that other vaccines are pushed on parents and babies that simply are not necessary for most small children.

There are **highly** contagious communicable disease that cripple and cause death. It is irresponsible not have a child vaccinated against these diseases. There are only a handful of these.

It is sad, but I fear that only a plague of crippling and deadly diphtheria, polio, or measles will be enough to bring the anti-vaccination advocates back into the realm of common sense.

By the way....Some years ago I had shingles. Wow! Get the vaccine! It is worth the $200 not to get this very painful and debilitating condition.

[Secret Agent Man]

I have family that have had that. You know what brings on shingles? High levels of intense stress. If you’ve had chickenpox I doubt the vaccine will prevent shingles if you have a very high stress period of time later in life, as that’s the source of your shingles.

[Secret Agent Man]

With current levels of basic hygiene an epidemic scenario isn’t likely. The four things that stop epidemics is clean water, sewage systems, garbage collection systems and handwashing/disinfecting capability. That’s why all major diseases you’d be worried about were all decreasing in America even before the advent of vaccines.

[Paleo Conservative]

By the way....Some years ago I had shingles. Wow! Get the vaccine! It is worth the $200 not to get this very painful and debilitating condition.

Do you know that the shingles vaccine like many others is cultured in a cell line derived from an aborted human fetus?