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Lawmakers won’t review concealed carry for blind(KS)
ljworld.com ^ | 1 February, 2012 | Chad Lawhorn

Posted on 02/02/2012 7:50:43 PM PST by marktwain

A little-known provision in Kansas law that allows the blind and other people with serious physical infirmities to carry concealed weapons in public places likely will not get reviewed by state lawmakers this session.

Kansas legislators are expected to debate a proposal that would allow concealed carry permit holders to bring their guns onto college campuses and into many public buildings.

But the chief proponent of that bill said Wednesday he has no plans to introduce legislation that would clarify a 2010 law change that removed the ability of the Kansas Attorney General to deny a concealed carry license based on a person “suffering a physical infirmity which prevents the safe handling of a weapon.”

“I’m just trying to address my specific issue,” said Rep. Forrest Knox, R-Altoona, who has introduced the legislation that would allow guns on campuses and in other public buildings, if those buildings don’t have certain electronic security devices in place. “I have made an intentional choice to stick with this one particular issue and not try to broaden it out too much.”

Chuck Sexson, who oversees the concealed carry program for the Kansas Attorney General’s office, said he also is not aware of any pending legislation that would address the state’s ability to deny a license when there is evidence that an individual can’t safely handle a weapon.

The change was included in a 2010 law that revamped much of the state’s six-year-old concealed carry program. The changes include eliminating the requirement that license holders take a shooting test in order to renew their license. But when lawmakers made that change, they also eliminated a more general provision that gave the state the ability to deny a license to somebody who clearly had a physical condition that made it impossible to safely handle a gun, such as blindness or other infirmities where people have lost control of their motor functions.

When the Journal-World first reported the law change in February 2011, the Kansas Attorney General’s office expressed surprise in the law change. The office conducted a review of the new statue and by June confirmed that the state no longer had the ability to deny renewal applications based on evidence that an applicant couldn’t physically handle a firearm in a safe manner.

But Attorney General Derek Schmidt has declined to comment on whether he thinks the law change has weakened the concealed carry program. This week, a spokesman for Schmidt said the Attorney General had brought the issue up to some legislators. But the spokesman did not respond to a question about whether Schmidt was concerned by the change in the law.

In other gun related news from the Statehouse:

• Legislation was introduced Tuesday that would no longer make it a crime for people to carry a concealed switch-blade knife or other similar knife-like devices. House Bill 2584 was introduced by the House’s Committee on Federal and State Affairs. The bill would change a portion of the state’s criminal use of weapons statute so that it would no longer be illegal to sell, manufacture, purchase or possess any knife, including switch-blades, daggers and dirks. The proposed law strictly prohibits cities from passing any local laws regulating the possession of knives. Attempts to reach Rep. Steve Brunk, chairman of the House’s Committee on Federal and State Affairs, were not successful Tuesday.

• House Bill 2421 would make it so that personal firearms that are manufactured inside the state of Kansas and remain inside the state’s boundaries would not be subject to federal gun registration laws. Rep. Connie O’Brien, R-Tonganoxie, and Rep. Jana Goodman, R-Leavenworth, introduced the bill. Attempts to reach either lawmaker were not successful.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: banglist; blind; ccw; ks
Some Kansas legislators are taking the Constitution seriously.

It is a weird argument of progressives, someone is handicapped, so we must take away their Constitutional right to self defense. Handicapped people often find ingenious ways to work around their problems.

Note that this passed two years ago and there have not been any reported problems, nor have there been problems in the Constitutional carry states of Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming, or Vermont.

1 posted on 02/02/2012 7:50:57 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Moral of the story: don’t m*ess with a blind person; they may be carrying!

You can be pretty sure that blind and handicapped folks aren’t often crime *perps*. Why shouldn’t they have the means to protect themselves?

This is as it *should* be. I wonder if Texas laws are similar.


2 posted on 02/02/2012 7:59:29 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: marktwain
It is weird. Except when you consider that libs lie to get their way.

When it's dark here, I'm pretty blind. But I don't lose my God-given, Constitution affirmed right to keep and bear arms.

And I've carried arms around here when it was like stacked black cats at midnight in a coal cellar.

/johnny

3 posted on 02/02/2012 8:06:15 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

I’m glad to see to the Firearms Freedom Act, or whatever they are calling the in-state manufactured firearms legislation (based on Montana’s law IIRC) is back on the agenda.

As to the main topic, I recall a case in Topeka several years ago where a legally blind citizen fired a gun at his doorway when the police were executing a no-knock warrant.

I’m trying to remember how it ended up, but they wanted to fry him for agg battery on an LEO but couldn’t because it was no-knock and the blind citizen was in fear for his life as his door was being broken down...


4 posted on 02/02/2012 8:09:11 PM PST by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: marktwain

Blind concealed carry? Why not? It was good enough for Ray Charles in the Blues Brothers.


5 posted on 02/02/2012 8:24:14 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: marktwain

“Handicapped people often find ingenious ways to work around their problems.”

Recommend Breaking Bad, season 4, episode 13 - Face Off.


6 posted on 02/02/2012 8:26:17 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: One Name

Apparently he had no problem aiming not just at the door but at the right spot on the door.

Usually the blind are not deaf, and can not only locate stereophonic position, but position relative to rear, forward, below, and above.


7 posted on 02/02/2012 8:55:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: marktwain

Some things just have nothing to do with politics. This is one of them. I don’t want blind people driving cars, flying planes, carrying guns, guiding missiles....


8 posted on 02/02/2012 9:06:45 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah, but I kinda want anyone with a gun to know what’s in front and behind the target too. Sorry, can’t sign off on blind people with guns. It just defies common sense.


9 posted on 02/02/2012 9:10:58 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Google “echolocation.”


10 posted on 02/02/2012 9:13:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: marktwain

” A little-known provision in Kansas law that allows the blind and other people with serious physical infirmities to carry concealed weapons in public places likely will not get reviewed by state lawmakers this session. “

what is to review, there it is .. deal with it


11 posted on 02/03/2012 1:32:18 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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