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The article does not mention that federal law protects travelers with guns from local prosecution, as long as they can legally posess the gun where they started the trip, and where they are going, and the gun is unloaded and in a locked container.

This type of incident shows why we need federal legislation requiring states to honor the permits of other states, in order to uphold the Second Amendment.

1 posted on 12/16/2011 6:04:13 AM PST by marktwain
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If federal law does protect him, why did they charge him? And the article mentions that others are prosecuted and usually pay fines.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 6:09:08 AM PST by republicangel
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To: marktwain
The article does not mention that federal law protects travelers with guns from local prosecution, as long as they can legally posess the gun where they started the trip, and where they are going, and the gun is unloaded and in a locked container.

If he was just changing planes in LaGuardia, that's true. But, the article doesn't indicate if NYC was simply a connection point, or if he stopped in NYC for any amount of time.

If it was a connection, then the Port Authority screwed up, big time. Meckler was complying with the law, and has grounds for a tort action against the arresting officer and the law enforcement agency.

3 posted on 12/16/2011 6:09:18 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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Dumb of Meckler. Since when did the Tea Party have leaders?

meh


4 posted on 12/16/2011 6:09:50 AM PST by dforest
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I thought at first perhaps since it was Foxnews, they might have checked into what they were reporting regarding “cartridges” but then saw it was a scum AP article.

So was he carrying 19 loose “cartridges” or was he carrying one or two magazines with a total of 19 “bullets” (the usual AP lingo for rounds)?


5 posted on 12/16/2011 6:12:31 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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I have traveled often with a firearm. There are certain procedures involved but it is legal. I declared my weapon (Read: SIG 229) at the check in counter. They looked at the lock box, asked me if it was unloaded, then marked my checked bag with a tag that said "Fire Arm". I didn't particularly like that marking but.....

Anyway, while returning from overseas I went through JFK airport. So I had to pick up my checked bag at the international terminal then go through the xray scanner on the domestic side. I wasn't concerned as I had my paperwork in hand. Of course the bag was clearly marked as stated above. Soon as my bag went into xray this moron screener started yelling, "GUN! GUN! GUN! I was immediately surrounded by about 5 police officers. It was embarrassing as people were scattering all around me. One police officer maintained some composure and asked me if it was my bag. I said Yes Sir, produced my papers (military ID) and went on my way the NC. The screener had to sit down for a minute as she was obviously in a high state of anxiety. Guess guns in NYC are scary to many eh?

8 posted on 12/16/2011 6:23:06 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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This is simple harassment:

FEDERAL LAW ON TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS A provision of the federal law known as the Firearms Owners` Protection Act, or FOPA, protects those who are transporting firearms for lawful purposes from local restrictions which would otherwise prohibit passage.

Under FOPA, notwithstanding any state or local law, a person is entitled to transport a firearm from any place where he or she may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he or she may lawfully possess and carry it, if the firearm is unloaded and locked out of reach. In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm must be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. Ammunition that is either locked out of reach in the trunk or in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console is also covered. Travelers should be aware that some state and local governments treat this federal provision as an “affirmative defense” that may only be raised after an arrest. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit has also recently held that FOPA`s protections only apply while the firearm is not readily accessible to the traveler, and that a firearm is readily accessible during a hotel stay.

While this decision is only binding in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware and the U.S. Virgin Islands, all travelers in areas with restrictive laws would be well advised to have copies of any applicable firearm licenses or permits, as well as copies or printouts from the relevant jurisdictions` official publications or websites documenting pertinent provisions of law (including FOPA itself) or reciprocity information. In the event of an unexpected or extended delay, travelers should make every effort not to handle any luggage containing firearms unnecessarily and to secure it in a location where they do not have ready access to it.

10 posted on 12/16/2011 6:27:02 AM PST by Lazamataz (That's all.)
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This is the same BS that got the president of a local university recently arrested on gun charges in New York. He had a concealed carry permit in this state and also had his gun unloaded in a locked case in accord with information from the airline website about traveling with a firearm. New York’s gun laws go beyond what even the federal laws allow and he too was arrested on gun charges. I am sure New Yorkers are so safe with these laws that cause law abiding citizens seeking their own protection to be arrested while the criminal element goes about fully armed.


11 posted on 12/16/2011 6:36:10 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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Who goes to Detroit with only 19 rounds of ammo?


14 posted on 12/16/2011 7:36:12 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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The article needs more information.

If in a locked box and being transported, was it because his ammo was in box too?

Was he transferring baggage between flights? If so, I have read never touch your bag. Make the airport touch it.

I travelled once from PA to NY for a firearms class. Most nervous time in my life although complying with law.


17 posted on 12/16/2011 7:53:27 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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Typical FoxSlews.com...made it sound like the Tea Party guy was launching an assault on the check-in counter.

"I'm checking in for my flight.
And, I don't want no lip from ya either!!!"

19 posted on 12/16/2011 8:28:48 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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>This type of incident shows why we need federal legislation requiring states to honor the permits of other states, in order to uphold the Second Amendment.

I honestly disagree; the following two laws should be utterly adequate to stomp on local government officials trying to subvert the 2nd Amendment:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/241.html
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/242.html


27 posted on 12/16/2011 3:54:37 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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