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Prolonged outage generates rage toward Edison
L.A. Times ^ | 12/7/2011 | By Rong-Gong Lin II and Abby Sewell

Posted on 12/07/2011 8:05:37 AM PST by americanophile

Of the 6,100 Edison customers in the San Gabriel Valley still without power after last week's windstorm, few suffered like 40-year-old Tim Cutress of Altadena.

When the power came back on Sunday, Cutress celebrated along with his wife, 4-year-old son and elderly mother visiting from New Zealand. After four days of darkness, the family eagerly cleaned out their stinky refrigerator, heated up the home and bought $400 worth of groceries to replace the food that had spoiled.

"Everybody rejoices," Cutress said. But then at 1 p.m. Monday, the power went out again. And more than 24 hours later, as the chilly darkness fell on Tuesday night, there was still no sign when the electricity would come back on.

The worst part of it, Cutress said, was that Edison kept signaling that the power was on the verge of coming back on. Every day he would use his iPhone — charged by his car engine — to check the utility's website. And each day it said the lights were expected to come on in the morning or later that day.

The other maddening part, he said, is how he hasn't been able to get answers from any senior Edison official.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: edison; poweroutage
Count me among the irritated.
1 posted on 12/07/2011 8:05:46 AM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile

Maybe most of the rage should be directed toward so-called environmentalists who want to send us back to the stone age.


2 posted on 12/07/2011 8:07:42 AM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: americanophile

3 posted on 12/07/2011 8:10:18 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: winner3000

These stories make me recount the ice storm of December 2008. We were without power for eight days, no generator (since solved) during a time when the temps never got above 20 degrees. I went through almost 2 cords of wood that week.

These people are whiners.


4 posted on 12/07/2011 8:10:41 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: americanophile

Slightly off topic, but...

I fully expect that if the Obama administration is allowed to continue to EPA the power companies into the bankruptcy for making “evil carbon dioxide,” that power outages and brownouts will become a regular occurrence.

We need to be self sufficient. Time is running out. The evil overlords in Washington only care about themselves.

Buy a (quiet) generator and fuel while you can. I suggest a kerosene powered generator. Kerosene stores safely for long periods of time. It behaves well at room temperature. Normal human beings can handle it with little worry of being blown up. Kerosene has a low vapor pressure in comparison to gasoline.


5 posted on 12/07/2011 8:15:54 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: winner3000
Maybe most of the rage should be directed toward so-called environmentalists who want to send us back to the stone age.

All the rage should be directed at the "environmentalists" (communists) that caused the problem.

Edison is among them as well as the PUC and the California State Government, Cal EPA, and the EPA.

It would be nice to see them mentioned in the MSM and nicer to see them prosecuted, but then I wouldn't want any FReepers to die laughing, so don't read this last sentence.

6 posted on 12/07/2011 8:17:21 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: americanophile

I tend to lump such people among the Occupy crowd. They have had many power outages in the past. They know they will be without electricity again and again. So, did they prepare by buying a generator for such times? No. They’d rather whine and place blame elsewhere. They lost $400 worth of groceries this time. Three such outages over three years and they’d be out the cost of a brand new 6000 W generator which would run their entire house with a few sacrifices such as using only one stove burner at a time. These people are Obama voters.


7 posted on 12/07/2011 8:17:38 AM PST by pabianice (")
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To: americanophile

Get used to it, California. Green power is in between power, in between periods of no power, that is. Solar ware to save polar bares and wind mills in the hills will fix it straight away.

Jerry says he doesn’t know what you’re complaining about, he’s never had a problem with outages.


8 posted on 12/07/2011 8:17:43 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: winner3000

“Maybe most of the rage should be directed toward so-called environmentalists who want to send us back to the stone age.”

Most of that rage comes from “so-called environmentalists who want to send us back to the stone age.”

They are not an intelligent group.


9 posted on 12/07/2011 8:20:04 AM PST by Mustang Driver
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To: americanophile

We lived in an area that experienced ice storms and power outages every winter.
I filled our old, oversized freezer half full with bags of ice to save energy.
The next ice storm was massive. Power was out for over a week. All our food was saved because of our oversized ice chest.
We left the area, and greatly downsized after our kids left, but I continue the same practice of keeping lots of ice, just in case.
For the same reason, we have a woodstove and gas cooking stove.
The days are upon us when we all have to be as prepared as possible to take care of ourselves. We knew a physician who did not know a gas stove burner could be lit with a match...simple things.


10 posted on 12/07/2011 8:21:05 AM PST by WestwardHo
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To: americanophile
If this minor outage due to windstorms troubles you, wait until you get cannot get power at all because of the EPA. From two recent editorials in the Wall Street Journal:

...a trove of documents uncovered by Congressional investigators reveals that ... the EPA is undermining the security and reliability of the U.S. electric power supply.

For the first time in U.S. history, net coal capacity is in decline. On top of the 38 gigawatts of generation that is already being run below normal levels or slated for early retirement, NERC predicts another 36 to 59 gigawatts will come offline by 2018, depending on the "scope and timing" of EPA demands. That could mean nearly a quarter of all coal-fired capacity.

EPA estimates that the benefits to society from the mercury reductions in the utility rule max out at $6.1 million, total, while imposing $11 billion in compliance costs annually.

Utilities across the country with coal being a large fraction of their energy mix are planning load curtailments and rationing. EPA is turning us into a third-world hell-hole with unreliable electricity.
11 posted on 12/07/2011 8:22:49 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: americanophile

Why does no one like me?

Because I am cooler!

12 posted on 12/07/2011 8:28:29 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Peter from Rutland

Ooof, no fun, and yes, they are.

I did my generator exercise a month ago. I only drag it out quarterly.


13 posted on 12/07/2011 8:32:27 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: GraceG
Like it.


14 posted on 12/07/2011 8:56:20 AM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Mustang Driver

I would suggest this family run out and buy the biggest and ugliest windwill they can find and place it in their front yard.


15 posted on 12/07/2011 9:07:14 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: pabianice
So, did they prepare by buying a generator for such times? No.

I agree. I have no sympathy. I actually feel a great deal of scorn for them.

The worst part of it, Cutress said, was that Edison kept signaling that the power was on the verge of coming back on. Every day he would use his iPhone — charged by his car engine — to check the utility's website

For a few months of phone charges he could of had one of these:

DuroMax XP4400E 4,400 Watt 7.0 HP OHV 4-Cycle Gas Powered Portable Generator With Wheel Kit And Electric Start - $440 (Free Shipping).

Now for one month more of phone charges he could have one of these:

Siemens ECSBPK07 Generator Standby Power Mechanical Interlock - $57 (Free Shipping) and Reliance Controls PB30 L14-30 30 Amp Generator Power Cord Inlet Box For Up To 7,500 Watt Generators - $65.

There is also some sweat equity and about $30 of misc. cable and parts. The bottom line is for less than half a year of phone charges he could of been prepared.

I do not feel any sympathy.
16 posted on 12/07/2011 9:51:12 AM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer
It seems that all parts of the country have their own region specific disasters. Either blizzards, ice storms, hurricanes, toronados, floods, fires, whatever they have regularly, they should be prepared for with electric generators, LP gas camp stoves, woodburners, etc.

I bought a used (for only one day) 5k watt generator for $350, and stumbled upon this site http://www.propane-generators.com/ where I can convert my generator to LP gas, which my home has, and tap into a gas line with a flexible hose and run the generator from the large tank behind the house, releasing me from the trouble of chasing after gasoline every few days to keep the generator happy at a rate of approx. 5ga per 8 hours run time. Plus, there is no rule that says you can have only one generator!

People should prepare, not wait for the utility companies or gov to fix things. The cost of one refridgerator or freezer of food saved would counter the expenses incurred.

17 posted on 12/07/2011 11:04:12 AM PST by rightly_dividing (1Cor. 15:1-4)
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To: pabianice

They’re not actually. They’re a half million people in one of the largest metropolitan areas in the country. No one anticipated widespread wind-caused power outages for more than a week in the shadow of America’s largest city. That it has taught everyone a valuable lesson about preparation and self-sufficiency is good, but it’s unheard of.


18 posted on 12/07/2011 11:59:40 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

*err, 2nd largest city.


19 posted on 12/07/2011 12:00:49 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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