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To: heiss

Ok. So what would you do with the illegals who have been here 15, 20 or more years who have established themselves, bought homes, have careers, own businesses, paid taxes, raised children, have settled into this country and are no burden to the citizens of this nation? There is no way in hell they can be rounded up and sent back to wherever they came from. There has to be a line drawn on which illegals get to stay and the main issue should be: are they a burden upon the citizens of this country? And there must be enforcement of immigration laws. Stop the inflow of illegals. Otherwise, the problem will never be resolved. Anyone who says they should all be deported, jailed, shot or whatever is just not being realistic or honest about the matter. Newt and Perry are correct. Romney and Bachmann are hypocrites. They would not say what they would do with those here now.


66 posted on 11/23/2011 8:20:28 AM PST by Jukeman
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To: Jukeman

If we stopped all services save life and death care to illegals, as well as fining employees and daily enforcing it, most illegals would self-deport. Families or not. Most are here for the freebies and jobs.

Now, if your wonderful illegal is seriously no burden on the taxpayers or job seekers, he will stay. Say, if he has a company himself and his kids all speak English and he pays for his own needs. He won’t self deport.

But all the freeloaders will.

Never abandon the good because it isn’t the perfect. Newt’s plan is amnesty. Central Americans know that all you have to do is to get here and lay low. Eventually you will be allowed to stay. Newt’s idea encourages everyone who’s not here to get here. Newts idea lets countries like Mexico just outsource their poverty. It’s wrong.


89 posted on 11/23/2011 8:48:37 AM PST by Yaelle (Herman Cain: the clever conservative with cojones.)
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To: Jukeman
Sure it can be handled. Deport the illegal parents no matter how long they have been here. Now if as you say they have been here 20 years and have grown adult kids born here {proof required} then allow the ones born here to stay but the parents leave. Yes it can and it must be done. Don't tell me it can't be done. There are certain things having no statute of limitations and this is one of them. As an illegal invader they willingly, knowingly, and with disregard for our nations laws got them here to start with.

BTW what about the living here 20 something years who still demand government print paperwork in Spanish? What about second generation grown up who still no speak English? We paid for their education remember that? The parents didn't come here to become Americans they came here too be illegals working in the USA UNDER THE TABLE taking benefits while doing so and if they get caught or in legal trouble they do one of several things like go back home till the heat is off, or move to another state with new someone else STOLLEN I.D. and right back in.

Can you or I do this and avoid jail? No we can't live without a trace number so why are you wanting to enable them too do what we can't? If I did the things illegals do including signing official papers under penalty of perjury with false information I'd be under the jail.

91 posted on 11/23/2011 8:49:49 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Jukeman

Interesting that so many are all worked up but don’t give a RATS behind at what is going on at the BORDER.

Give TEXAS what we need to stop the invasion!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX2gtblTeqI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61_iNsFLwFE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmBM773aSyw


104 posted on 11/23/2011 9:08:01 AM PST by marty60
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