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Casey, Toomey Withdraw Support for Paterno Medal of Freedom Bid
NBC Philadelphia ^ | 11 November 11 | Catherine Brown

Posted on 11/11/2011 11:12:59 AM PST by bjorn14

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: paterno
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1 posted on 11/11/2011 11:13:05 AM PST by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

I don’t see how these guys didn’t see this coming. Its been bubbling up for at least a year. And they could have talked to Corbett first. He knew the details and could have warned them not to do it.


2 posted on 11/11/2011 11:17:13 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: bjorn14

BFD, if they want to impress me, go after Bawney Frank.


3 posted on 11/11/2011 11:18:24 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: bjorn14

The facts will shake out. I have friends that donate a lot (like 7 figures) to Penn State. Paterno is being scape goated. Corbett is in trouble. I voted for Corbett, but it could get really ugly for him soon (hint: he was the AG of PA a few years ago).


4 posted on 11/11/2011 11:23:42 AM PST by Tulane
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To: Tulane

EXACTLY!

ALL THIS IS COVERING FOR CORBETT

MAKES ME SICK WHAT THEY DID TO JOE


5 posted on 11/11/2011 11:37:23 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: SF_Redux

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_child_sex-abuse_sca.html

MORE INVESTIGATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IS REQUIRED

It’s really a shame because there are so many unanswered questions right now that people are just out to hang anyone and everyone involved, without knowing all of the details. Apparently after the 2002 incident, police WERE notified, however, they never filed any charges OR reports. Nobody is questioning the police depts or officers. That right there could clear many people who knew (ie Paterno, Mcqueary, etc), at the time that law enforcement WAS infact involved.

There’s also the situation with the district attorney up there who coincidentally, has been missing since the incident and has now been declared legally dead. If police were notified and later hush hushed, so to was the then DA who has never been seen or heard from. And all of THAT leads to THIS. The DA would have reported it to the THEN Attorney General, who at that time, was Gov Corbett, who coincidentally, has been very involved in directing what happens within the PSU Board of Trustees. Making sure he covers his own butt?

Seems to me, there remain A LOT of unanswered questions that run all the way to the top in the state of PA, and if this conspiracy theory pans out, well, everything that SHOULD have happened from a moral perspective, DID happen. It was the powers above the morally intact Paterno, however, that tried to make sure everything stayed under the carpet....

In the end I believe Paterno will be cleared of the “moral obligation” witch hunt that everyone seems to have mounted, and all of the cats will be let out of the bag.

- Spanier knew and covered it up

- Police dept knew and was forced to cover it up

- DA Gricar knew and was paid off to make it go away, or was simply “taken care of”

- Attorney General Corbett was informed and made sure Spanier was cleared, the local PD was silenced, and the DA was made to “disappear”

And now, the only good person left that had any evidence of pushing forward in the investigation, was the DA and he’s “dead”

What happened there? In 1998, District Attorney Gricar for whatever reason, declined to press charges against Sandusky following allegations of sexual abuse and the DA eventually turned up missing. In 2005, fishermen discovered Gricar’s county-issued laptop computer in the Susquehanna River beneath a bridge between Lewisburg and Milton. A State computer expert analyzed the computer and found that its hard drive was missing. Divers searched the area of the river near where the laptop was found over the next several days, but found nothing else. Months later, a hard drive was recovered on the banks of the Susquehanna River about 100 yards from where the laptop was found and is believed to be Gricar’s, however, it was badly damaged and analysis by the FBI, US Secret Service, and the firm Kroll Ontrack, were all unable to recover any data from the hard drive. In April 2009 Bellefonte police revealed that before his disappearance, Gricar used his home computer to perform internet searches on topics such as “how to wreck a hard drive”, “how to fry a hard drive”, and “water damage to a notebook computer”. How a man who served for 20 years, could simply leave his family behind and never be seen or heard from again? FAR to mysterious if you ask me.

Ref;
Internet sources, including
http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/06/2976046/gricar-had-final-say-in-ending.html
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/133615093.html


6 posted on 11/11/2011 11:39:05 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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I have a friend from law school in the state house...let’s just say Corbett is in deep sh*t, and is doing everything he can to blame the most prominent media figure out there. Paterno is not the uncaring monster he is being portrayed to be. Paterno has lawyer-ed up, and is about to come out swinging.

For the record, I am not a Penn State fan. I do, however, have relatives and friends very close to the university. They are ashamed of how some in the university handled this...but the whole story is not out there...yet.


7 posted on 11/11/2011 11:47:06 AM PST by Tulane
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To: Tulane

Yes, he knew the deal but he couldn’t say a word because Grand Juries operate in secrecy. He could only discuss the case with people he brought with him from the AG’s office into the Governor’s office.


8 posted on 11/11/2011 11:49:28 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard; dfwgator

This scandal has yet to begin:
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/10/2551780/jerry-sandusky-rumors-penn-state-scandal


9 posted on 11/11/2011 11:49:56 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: SF_Redux

Check out following:
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/10/2551780/jerry-sandusky-rumors-penn-state-scandal

Several articles on http://www.WryteStuff.com too.


10 posted on 11/11/2011 11:51:20 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: Tulane

Paterno is not being scape-goated so much as he is being torn apart and devoured by the bloodthirsty media, ala “Lord of the Flies”. Once they get the scent, the pack mentality takes over and these sub-humans forget anything they may have ever known about common decency.

The politicians, the university administrators, and the pundits are no better, each desperately trying to seize a phony moral highground. Not one of them has the cojones to say, “This is a lynching. It’s wrong to take such precipitous action without a full examination of all the facts, just to satisfy a mob of jackals.”


11 posted on 11/11/2011 11:56:46 AM PST by Walrus (Big media is the natural enemy of liberty)
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>> “Paterno is not being scape-goated” <<

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Paterno committed at least one felony as an accessory.


12 posted on 11/11/2011 12:04:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Walrus

The facts are pretty much incriminating to them all..kids were abused...and they knew it...end of story.


13 posted on 11/11/2011 12:05:22 PM PST by caww
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To: Tulane
The facts will shake out. I have friends that donate a lot (like 7 figures) to Penn State. Paterno is being scape goated.

Exactly how is firing a guy that let his assistant coach and friend bang little boys in the PSU locker room 'scape goating'?

Corbett is in trouble. I voted for Corbett, but it could get really ugly for him soon (hint: he was the AG of PA a few years ago).

Why is Corbett in trouble? It has already gotten ugly and will get uglier. Your hint makes no sense. He was the one that started the investigation.

14 posted on 11/11/2011 12:10:54 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Tulane
Paterno is not the uncaring monster he is being portrayed to be. Paterno has lawyer-ed up, and is about to come out swinging.

I saw the video of the rally in front of his house. I saw him laughing and smiling talking about how great this moment (the rally) was for him. Barely a word about the kids or scandal. It was all about Paterno. His mind just don't work right.

15 posted on 11/11/2011 12:14:22 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Kackikat
This scandal has yet to begin:

True. We have been discussing that over the last few days here.

16 posted on 11/11/2011 12:16:12 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

Why is Corbett in trouble? It has already gotten ugly and will get uglier. Your hint makes no sense. He was the one that started the investigation.
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Here’s another hint: How long did it take him to start the investigation?

Another: Which current governor was also a member of the Penn State BOT a few years ago?

With respect to Paterno: He reported the information to the AD (his boss) and the person in charge of SC police. He was given information about an investigation (which did not make the GJ indictment).

Trust me, the sh*t storm is just beginning.


17 posted on 11/11/2011 12:19:16 PM PST by Tulane
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To: NewinTexsas

I saw the video of the rally in front of his house. I saw him laughing and smiling talking about how great this moment (the rally) was for him. Barely a word about the kids or scandal. It was all about Paterno. His mind just don’t work right.
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He is 84. Does anybody’s mind work right at that age? In all seriousness, the supposed lack of reporting and following up on the part of Paterno will be debunked in the coming days or weeks. There was a reason his press conference was cancelled by the president.

Don’t take my word for it. Just wait and see.


18 posted on 11/11/2011 12:22:28 PM PST by Tulane
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To: Tulane

Sorry, but what a load of crap. Sandusky was in the offices of the Athletic department up until literally days ago. Legal procedures aside, there is no reason Paterno couldn’t have ensure that this creep had ZERO affiliation with the Penn State football program as soon as he heard the original allegation.

Paterno either believed it and did nothing, or chose to believe that a trusted assistant coach (McQueary) was a liar.


19 posted on 11/11/2011 12:26:37 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Tulane

So Paterno hears direct, first hand knowledge from a trusted assistant that Sandusky was anally raping a 10 year old, and Paterno doesn’t even totally sever ties with Sandusky? Sorry, that alone is worthy of firing in my book. Its a horrible lack of judgement.


20 posted on 11/11/2011 12:29:42 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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