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Penn State abuse scandal engulfing revered Paterno (Tuesday press conference on the way)
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Posted on 11/08/2011 4:58:40 AM PST by Libloather
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To: af_vet_rr
Asst coaches, like Sandusky, spend a lot of time in close proximity with the players and other athletic staff. Practice, film, trainign room, dining halls..it's a LOT of time. I'm NOT suggesting any inappropriate contact between players and Sandusky, ( he liked them MUCH younger) but when you spend that much time with one person, for 3-4 years as a player,or in case of some staffers, decades, you get a sense, a vibe, off that person, or they observed him in close proximity with young kids many times. I suspect that a great many had an idea, an inkling, that something was wrong..and failed to say anything.
It's also very likely that Sandusky committed many acts with kids inside the Penn State facilities. The pathology f pedophiles is such that they need to have a comfort zone, a space where they feel safe, untouchable. For Sandusky, that was the Penn State athletic buildings.
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posted on
11/08/2011 7:41:51 AM PST
by
ken5050
(Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
To: af_vet_rr
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posted on
11/08/2011 7:46:44 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
To: NewinTexsas
They all watched for years as he brought little boys into and out of the showers at odd hours. The guys that cleaned the showers watched. They are all co-conspirators to me.
Indict them, try them, and let a jury decide.
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posted on
11/08/2011 7:47:12 AM PST
by
Mikey_1962
(Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
To: ken5050
It's also very likely that Sandusky committed many acts with kids inside the Penn State facilities. They had him on tape admitting that in 1998. The janitor that cleaned the showers testified that the had seen him in 2000.
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/7/2545027/-jerry-sandusky-ray-gricar-prosecutor-1998-penn-state-missing
To: ken5050
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posted on
11/08/2011 7:53:39 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
To: mewzilla
..dissertation...Just charming.
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posted on
11/08/2011 7:55:05 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
To: af_vet_rr
Yes, I see your points very clearly and I agree. I was wondering if, from a legal aspect, if Paterno can escape prosecution.
IMO, it’s sad on many levels, not only for the boys that were harmed, but for the long and legendary career of Paterno. Bad way to have to go out and I don’t think even if he is cleared, he has enough time to live this down. Just sad.
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posted on
11/08/2011 8:08:36 AM PST
by
alarm rider
(I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
To: Mikey_1962
They are all co-conspirators to me. After Victim #1 broke down at school (Mother's quotes). They are co-conspirators also. They told me to go home and think about what I wanted to do, and I was not happy, she said. They said I needed to think about how that would impact my son if I said something like that. I went home and got [my son] and we came to [Children and Youth Services] immediately.
To: alarm rider
Yes, I see your points very clearly and I agree. I was wondering if, from a legal aspect, if Paterno can escape prosecution.
The State Police commissioner seemed to think Paterno was not legally obligated, just morally obligated to take things further than reporting it to his bosses.
If it turns out that Sandusky was still using Penn State facilities on the main campus, Paterno will not survive the season. I've got a friend who went to Penn State, and he said the alumni are just going crazy over this, and they are wanting a lot of people to be fired/jailed over this and just clear out a bunch of people. They are sick over the victims that were injured, they are sick over the cloud this puts Penn State.
If it's documented that Sandusky was still around and that Paterno knew, Paterno will not only be asked to step down, but somebody could file a civil suit against Paterno. I don't know how far it would go, but if you know a child was abused and the person who did it was still walking free years later, you're on shaky ground.
To: af_vet_rr
Thank you for the information. I have a friend that went to Penn State and he tells me that in forums, etc. alumni are going nuts fighting about Paterno and how he should go out. He tells me it’s about 50/50 but friendships are fraying and harsh words flying about.
From his point of view, he is saddened that Paterno is involved at all.
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posted on
11/08/2011 8:27:21 AM PST
by
alarm rider
(I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
To: alarm rider
Paterno should step down immediately for the good of all. PSU needs to clean house and if Joe would step down then they could move forward in the cleaning.
To: af_vet_rr
The county DA knew. I am sure that Joe knew.
The guys that cleaned the locker room knew. I am sure that Joe knew.
To: af_vet_rr
I’m quite suprised, I’ve long thought that ESPN is basically a homosexual operation after seeing every issue of their magazine being little but gay porn if going by the cover. I honestly am not out to police the actions of adults with consenting adults but what little knowledge I have of the community they have little desire to police the true psychopaths amongst themselves.
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posted on
11/08/2011 9:10:21 AM PST
by
junta
("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
To: junta
The good old college sports cult that too many conservatives waste their money on and I’m talking big money.
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posted on
11/08/2011 9:14:33 AM PST
by
junta
("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
To: junta
Which station is broadcasting this week’s game with Nebraska? And who is advertising on it?
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posted on
11/08/2011 9:15:30 AM PST
by
junta
("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
To: Libloather; Admin Moderator
Press conference has been cancelled.
Admin Moderator, please update the title of this thread.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7207730/penn-state-nittany-lions-call-joe-paterno-news-conference
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posted on
11/08/2011 9:20:02 AM PST
by
TexasNative2000
(Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
To: af_vet_rr
The State Police commissioner seemed to think Paterno was not legally obligated, just morally obligated to take things further than reporting it to his bosses.It needs to be remembered that Jerry Sandusky retired somewhat early in 1999. There's that tape floating around where Sandusky admits to wrongdoing in 1998. It may just turn out that a lot of University officials knew a lot more than they are willing to admit & at a much earlier date.
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posted on
11/08/2011 12:02:31 PM PST
by
Tallguy
(You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
To: alarm rider
I heard that Paterno reported the incident up the chain of command. Does that absolve him?IAW the appropriate sections of PA state law, it legally covers him. Does it do so morally? There is where the debate is raging...
the infowarrior
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