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Europe at war 2018
Daily Mail ^ | 29th October 2011 | Dominic Sandbrook

Posted on 10/29/2011 10:06:10 AM PDT by markomalley

German troops storm Greece. Putin's tanks crush Latvia. France humbles the British Army. Unlikely, yes, but as Angela Merkel says euro meltdown could endanger peace, a historian's imagination runs riot...

The date is October 29, 2018, and Britain faces its darkest hour. On the battlefields of Europe, our Armed Forces have been humiliated.

In makeshift prison camps on the continent, thousands of our young men and women sit forlornly, testament to the collapse of our ambitions.

From the killing grounds of Belgium to the scarred streets of Athens, a continent continues to bleed. And, in the east, the Russian bear inexorably tightens its grip, an old empire rising from the wreckage of the European dream.

Yesterday, after a run of military defeats unequalled in our history, the Prime Minister offered his resignation. There is talk of a National Government, but no one has any illusions of another Churchill waiting in the wings.

In suburban streets across Britain, old men and callow teenagers are digging defensive positions in the cold autumn air. But with equipment scarce and ammunition non-existent, the Home Guard would barely last a week.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: foreignlegion; frenchnukes; iberiandefaults; northsouthsplit
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To: markomalley
Hmmm.. one problem with this...

I THOUGHT in 2012 the earth will end!!! /s

21 posted on 10/29/2011 12:10:48 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
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To: markomalley
The international elitists trying to bring nations under regional and world government economic and social control, is the recipe for oppression, war and poverty.

We did not learn from history about these megalomaniac hyenas. Smaller is freer and safer.

22 posted on 10/29/2011 12:30:53 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: hinckley buzzard

Or Libya. Greece might be an easier nut to crack, though.


23 posted on 10/29/2011 12:40:27 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-The government gets rich, you get poor.)
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To: markomalley

The writer left out a significant factor in his fictional account. Nothing about the fifth column present in all european countries, that being a substantial number of muslimes.


24 posted on 10/29/2011 12:52:38 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: markomalley
German troops storm Greece.

To do what? Conquer the debt?

25 posted on 10/29/2011 1:21:41 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: ken5050

England could project an army if they stopped paying welfare and give aways. Draft people and send them to fight as always.


26 posted on 10/29/2011 1:44:09 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Olog-hai

You touched on the problem I have with the article. Mainly, what are the Germans doing? The author focused on France and Russia, almost completely ignoring Germany.

Additionally, I don’t think France, Spain, Britain, or Germany will be doing much except fighting a civil war within their own countries... considering their rather large Islamic population.

Or has anyone forgotten the riots, car burnings, and no-go zones that France has already experienced with their Muslims?


27 posted on 10/29/2011 2:51:31 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: risen_feenix

I doubt that Russia would be able to take Poland. Too big, too prosperous, and they haven’t forgotten about the last time that happened.


28 posted on 10/29/2011 2:54:21 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Moltke

Nahh... collecting the collateral that Greece put down for their loans.

Parthanon... check!
Mt. Olympos... check!
Deep sea ports... check!
Factories... check!

What? You object? You weren’t objecting to our money or our terms when we offered them, so stick it!


29 posted on 10/29/2011 2:58:07 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

What collateral? What factories?

And Germany has enough of it’s own ruins (castles along the Rhine etc.) to keep her busy for many years to come - so the Parthenon doesn’t sound particularly enticing.

Nope, I’m not convinced.

Oh wait. A bulkhead against further Turkish invasion of the fatherland. Yeah, that might be a valid reason. But then, the Greeks hate the Turks even more than the Germans do, and the Greeks have the bigger military. So again, nope, no reason to even spend the gas money to get there. QED.


30 posted on 10/29/2011 3:45:58 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: markomalley

Ohhh, just take a day off perfidious Albion.
All admire the way you sucessfully, completely and utterly destroyed European civilization with your efforts in the 20th Century.
Relax in your shariah state, you have suceeded beyond your wildest dreams.


31 posted on 10/29/2011 4:38:53 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: markomalley

I don’t think the Caliphate would permit this.


32 posted on 10/29/2011 4:49:07 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: nkycincinnatikid

Yeah, Britain destroyed European civilisation in the 20th century - making war on that nice Mr Hitler. Why don’t you take a day off, instead.


33 posted on 10/29/2011 6:52:13 PM PDT by WilliamTells
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To: markomalley; GeronL; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Cincinna; LS; Clintonfatigued

I think Mr. Sandbrook had too much gin before he wrote this.


34 posted on 10/30/2011 1:33:15 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
Well, just remember that scarcely a few years before WW I started, virtually everyone was predicting there could never be another European war. Ivan Bloch said weapons made it too costly; Keynes and Norman Angell ("The Great Illusion") said that trade had woven the nations together and that a future war was impossible.

And to those who say that generals are always fighting the last war, well, Solomon said "There is nothing new under the sun," and every time you think you see a new war ("war on terror") you realize we've been there, done that (Filipino Insurrection/Moro Wars).

35 posted on 10/30/2011 6:13:29 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: WilliamTells

Anyone posting under Willian Tell should have have a genuine grasp of history. Shame on you.
“what is old collapses, times change.
And new life blossoms in the ruins”
It was the pathetic british conceit to delay its destiny that led it to destroy Europe.
Lloyd George and Churchill were the fathers of Adolf Hitler.
britain made war repeatedly, America won those wars.
Have you thanked a Yank today?


36 posted on 10/30/2011 6:39:48 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: nkycincinnatikid

It took you a day to come up with that?


37 posted on 10/31/2011 12:18:42 PM PDT by WilliamTells
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To: Don Corleone
The next one however will be totally different, fought not with tanks and guns but more likely with bits and bytes and societal chaos.

In the case of Russia, they could wreck western Europe just by cutting of the supply of gas in the winter.

38 posted on 10/31/2011 12:40:50 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

That could be how this escalates from a “trade war” to a “shooting war”.

What if one country had it’s oil supply shut off? If your nation was freezing, wouldn’t you consider rolling some military into the other country to “secure” the free flow of oil? What if you discovered the source - the physical location - that launched a cyber attack against your country’s banks? Would an air strike be in order?

The triggers and resources being fought over will be different, but the end will be same as before. Bullets will fly in Europe, but this time they will be fighting an enemy within as well as without. Sucks to be them.


39 posted on 10/31/2011 1:00:35 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: LS; Cincinna

The Russian stuff is plausible. But Sarko turning into Napoleon (unchecked by the rest of the French government?) and conducting the first successful invasion of Britain in what, 400 years? That’s more than a little loopy.


40 posted on 10/31/2011 3:01:24 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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