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To: chessplayer

Read the document. Most of it makes sense.

Except for the patently insane, IMO, assumption that we are presently at the point where armed resistance is appropriate.

Most any sane person will agree there are hypothetical situations where armed resistance against true oppressors is appropriate, even morally required. But I believe it is wildly hyperbolic to claim we’re at or near that point now.

The problem, of course, is that from a practical standpoint by the time you actually get to that point things are so bad that your resistance is likely to be ineffective. What practical good would shooting one (or twenty) Cheka or Gestapo goons have accomplished?

The author of the piece also implies that you may need to shoot a cop to save your life. This is not good advice except possibly on an extremely temporary basis. Shoot a cop and your chance of being killed in the next few hours is very high. If caught and not “killed while resisting arrest” you will almost certainly either face the death penalty or life in prison.


8 posted on 10/28/2011 7:15:15 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Handing it out to protesters and homeless people can’t be a good idea.


11 posted on 10/28/2011 7:22:36 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Sherman Logan

Are you out of your mind, none of it make sense.


16 posted on 10/28/2011 7:44:01 PM PDT by JIM O
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To: Sherman Logan

I knew police haters would rear their ugly heads!!!


24 posted on 10/28/2011 8:31:19 PM PDT by copwife (All God's creatures have a place in the choir!)
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To: Sherman Logan
The problem, of course, is that from a practical standpoint by the time you actually get to that point things are so bad that your resistance is likely to be ineffective. What practical good would shooting one (or twenty) Cheka or Gestapo goons have accomplished?

The quote below is not mine, and its source can be found on my homepage.

LESSON NO. 1: If a bureaucrat, or a soldier sent by a bureaucrat, comes to knock down your door and take you someplace you do not want to go because of who you are or what you think -- kill him. If you can, kill the politician who sent him. You will likely die anyway, and you will be saving someone else the same fate. For it is a universal truth that the intended victims always far outnumber the tyrant's executioners. Any nation which practices this lesson will quickly run out of executioners and tyrants.

That may be a good theory on what to do, but the quote below is from someone with experience.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, polkers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur — what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! - Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn

Both quotes were shamelessly lifted from earlier posts on FR.

Bottom line: We can win, but we won't all be there for the Victory Parade.

31 posted on 10/28/2011 9:27:06 PM PDT by cayuga (Who tops the list...the OWS scum or the ROP crowd?)
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To: Sherman Logan
Except for the patently insane, IMO, assumption that we are presently at the point where armed resistance is appropriate....But I believe it is wildly hyperbolic to claim we’re at or near that point now.

I couldn't disagree more

34 posted on 10/29/2011 4:36:15 AM PDT by ex91B10 (The only option now is mass resistance.)
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