Posted on 10/23/2011 9:05:57 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
meanwhile , IN Tunisia,, elections.. and a kinder gentler form of Islamic Sharia Law likely to prevail.. they will rule as moderately Islamic and not force their religion on others.
Yeah right.
UPDATE 6-Huge turnout in Tunisia’s Arab Spring election
http://af.reuters.com/article/tunisiaNews/idAFL5E7LN01Y20111023?sp=true
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The leader of an Islamist party predicted to win the biggest share of the vote was heckled outside a polling station by people shouting “terrorist”, highlighting tensions between Islamists and secularists being felt across the Arab world.
Bouazizi’s dramatic suicide, prompted by despair over poverty and government repression, provoked mass protests which forced President Zine al-Abidine to flee Tunisia. This in turn inspired revolts in Egypt, Libya, Yemen and Syria.
Rachid Ghannouchi, leader of the moderately Islamist Ennahda party, took his place in the queue outside a polling station in the El Menzah 6 district of the capital.
“This is an historic day,” he said, accompanied by his wife and daughter, both wearing Islamic headscarves, or hijabs. “Tunisia was born today. The Arab Spring was born today.”
But as he emerged from the polling station, about a dozen people shouted at him: “Degage” French for “Go away”, and “You are a terrorist and an assassin! Go back to London!”
Ghannouchi, who spent 22 years in exile in Britain, has associated his party with the moderate Islamism of Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan. He has said he will not try to impose Muslim values on society.
“Islam should be respected again in Tunisia,” said Hasna Ben Zid, a 38-year-old woman wearing a hijab, “That’s why I’m going to vote for the only Islamic party.”
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camel .. nose.. tent..
Of course!!! This is just what Obama and Hillary planned!!! Yep, teardown that horrible United States of America!!! IMHO, Obama, Clinton and the entire Democrat Party are traitors to our country. They have now lost the entire Middle East!!! Israel, its Jews stand naked, alone, surrounded by murderous enemies bent on killing them all, including African Black Christians and all Muslim non-believers. America wake up, your freedom, independence and liberty are going down the drain, gleefully, purposely, engineered and led by our own POTUS, Barack (African Muslim) Hussein Obama!!!
How do they expect to make it into the 21st century?
I thought one of the large concerns of the aRab spring was poorly developed economies and resulting unemployment.... let alone human rights, liberty and freedom....
Rapes, honor killings, beheadings....nothing changes for the good...same old uncivilized behavior by a retarded race of humanity. You could tell the way this was going by witnessing the death of Kadafi...and whats’s with shooting bullets in the sky as a form of celebration? Haven’t they heard of champagne yet?
Did anybody expect any different?
If so, that somebody has been living in a cave.
If it were up to Obama, the U.S. would codify Sharia Law here too.
Spring has sprungBarack's The Whiz
I wonder where
The Freedom is.....
Again, this whole Arab Spring began with Tunisia as it will with the Arab Winter.
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If this is victory, I would like to try some failure.
Obama and Democrats talk about this Arab Spring as if we’re seeing revolutions which will result in peaceful parliamentary democracies taking root in all of these countries.
We don’t know what is going to happen in these countries.
The strongest political force in Egypt is the Muslim Brotherhood.
Here we see Libya’s leaders praising Sharia law as their guidepost.
The Libyan rebels were said to be affiliated with Al Qaeda.
We could well see radical Muslim regimes take root in these countries.
But Obama praises the Arab spring as an expression of the will to establish parliamentary democracy in the middle east.
On one level, it’s good to see Qadafi gone, but let’s wait and see what replaces him before we become too euphoric about the Arab spring.
Now, with our abandonment of Iraq, Egypt, Libya, and soon-to-be Afghanistan, along with Iran, Syria, Tunisia, Uganda and poor Israel will be concomitantly forced use their nuclear arsenal. I say use them ALL, and finish this Muslim scourge.
Decades ago, European leaders split up Arabia and put the pieces under dictatorships to contain Islam. We have unleashed the monster, and we will pay the price one of these days. Unfortunately, some would have us station troops in come of these countries forever, thinking that will bring victory. Victory is eliminating your enemy, and doing it from the air so no US lives are lost.
I believe this also. However, it will not be done at the hands of an America controlled by a Muslim President who has no allegiance to it. It will, in the end, be executed by Israel. It will be final.
let's not get too optimistic here......how about they move into the 8 th century first ?
Exactly why the Kenyon Clown was supporting them.
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