Posted on 10/06/2011 9:13:58 PM PDT by IsraelBeach
Well, that's rather obvious, since it almost certainly wouldn't be the real Steve.
I visited an Apple Store for the first time ever yesterday afternoon, before I learned the news (which I learned from the screens there) (how about that for strange coincidences?!) and among the many blueshirted employees, some wearing jeans with torn knees, others dirty sneakers, evidently the dress code applied only to the top of the body, among them all I noticed two fellows who were clearly over 60, one of them possible over 70, and this is a brand new store, so presumably they were new hires. What was going on there? I didn’t find out, they were both busy, and I didn’t speak to them or to anyone there.
The tech sector is notorious for age discrimination, even 35-40 years old.
Oh, Steve would today receive plenty of responses to his resume on Monster.com. From hungry headhunters, none from actual hiring companies.
So here’s my idea for solving the H1B visa problem. Let’s start from scratch, and withdraw all of the H1B permits. Then, Congress to hi tech companies: We’ll start approving your requests for H1B visas. Unemployment rate among computer software and hardware engineers over 45 years old is now ___%. You’ll get your H1B permits when the rate equals (is down to) the general unemployment rate in the country.
This is, folks, how the political system can begin serving the interests of American citizens first.
No no. That IS the dress code at apple stores. All the sales people are supposed to look like hip people in their twenties. That look is more important than knowing about their products.
I should have said ‘uniform code’, because the T shirts were all identical, and the bottoms all up to the wearer. I’ve no problem with that.
Yes. They have a ranking system and it is denoted by the t-shirts all the way up to the fellas in black.
Quite weird and cult like. I have a friend who works at a store near me that whenever he talks about apple or its products or the people he works with it is like he becomes a different person. He gets very hurt if you make any critical remarks about apple.
Freaky stuff if you ask me, but you know free country and whatnot.
HaHa... Somewhere, maybe on youtube, I saw a expose video made by this guy who was a Apple Store clerk. He spilled all
the dirt about what a stinking pile that company is to work for.
Specially about the store culture. If you spill any “secret” to a customer.... off with your head!!
Interesting. One other note. There were quite a few of the salesmen there, more than you’d see at a Best Buy or similar stores. Some in groups of two or three were talking among themselves. And yet, as I wandered around the store, none of them approached me, which is unusual in retail situations, and which I personally don’t mind (not being approached), as I hate obnoxious, aggressive sales people.
We need H1B visa people for work in genetics, cellular chemistry, nuclear engineering, bio-physics, neurobotics, aircraft design etc. We have enough computer programmers in this country, we don’t need foreign imports for programming jobs.
Why employ a highly skilled and experienced 55 year old American when you can import an 25 year old Indian or Chinese and pay him less than half as much?
And these geniuses in Congress and the White House better come up with a plan of mandatory job placement when they raise the retirement age from 65 to 67/68 - who the hell is going to hire a 65 year old?
Maybe we do (need H1Bs.) Still, I wonder how many professionals in the industries you mention who are over 45 are unemployed, and due to their age unemployable!
What would happen is that the guys on the H1B’s would go back to their countries, and the jobs would go with them. It would be even cheaper than employing them here, and you’d lose related jobs as well.
I am not sure age discrimination is as endemic as people believe. The real problem is that skills are perishable; any technical person needs to have a second job always, which is to remain current. Imo, staying in the same industry helps a technical person, by allowing him/her to accumulate domain knowledge. Domain knowledge is harder to acquire than technical knowledge.
I worked for many years at Argonne labs, a premier research facility in the country. I observed more scientists over 45 than under 45 doing research activities. It is not a small lab, employs about 5000.
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