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Cain Says He ‘Would Not Be Comfortable’ As Perry's Running Mate
National Journal ^ | October 6, 2011 | Lindsey Boerma

Posted on 10/06/2011 10:35:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

HOUSTON -- Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Thursday that he would definitely consider an invitation to run as the eventual nominee’s vice president, except if the nominee turns out to be Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Cain, who rocketed to the top tier of the GOP field in several recent polls, was asked by reporters on the campaign trail for his thoughts on a hypothetical invitation to run as the eventual nominee’s No. 2. After offering the obligatory comment that he intends to be the nominee, Cain said, “Quite frankly, based upon Gov. Perry’s position on some issues, I would not be comfortable being his vice presidential nominee.”

Those issues include Perry’s moderate stances on immigration. As governor, Perry supported legislation offering in-state college tuition for the children of illegal immigrants, which has become a flash point in his campaign. Cain said, “Issues relative to being soft on the border, issues relative to the whole, you know, tuition for children of illegal aliens. And I haven’t totally gone through all of his positions, but a lot of positions I have questions with.”

Cain, who is black, was critical of Perry after the Washington Post reported Sunday that his family owned a Texas hunting camp once known as “Niggerhead,” a word that was also painted on a rock near the camp’s entrance. Perry has maintained that his father painted over the word as soon as he bought the property in the 1980s. And Cain subsequently said he believed Perry’s explanation.

Of a vice presidential slot in general, Cain said, “I would not say no to being vice president of the United States. But it would depend upon who got the nomination. I will support who gets the nomination. I know I have said that there are some people right now who I cannot support, but I wouldn’t say no to it. I could say yes. But it has to be someone who I believe I can complement them in their job by being able to bring my skills to the table.”


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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Please tell me the ways that Herman Cain’s positions in that link about immigration deviate from Rick Perry’s.

F-E-N-C-E.

81 posted on 10/06/2011 11:30:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
After all, Perry backed Rudy in 2007. Oh, wait, that's right CW - you did too!

Most people in Texas did. McCain could barely scare up a dime here in Texas after what he did to Bush.

82 posted on 10/06/2011 11:30:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You did a lot more than just support him, CW. You actively shilled for Rudy and attacked his critics on FR.


83 posted on 10/06/2011 11:31:54 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: SMARTY

You don’t think it’s problematic for a POTUS to trample on people’s first amendment rights just because they disagree with the religion?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/07/herman-cain-doesnt-believe-in-the-first-amendment/242079/

Or his interpretation on the 2nd Amendment?

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/herman-cain-gun-control-a-states-issue-huh/


84 posted on 10/06/2011 11:32:04 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: dirtboy

Read it again. Cain says exactly what Perry says. You use it all. Perry says drones/technology, boots on the ground and fencing in urban areas.


85 posted on 10/06/2011 11:32:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: marty60

So there must be some truth in this statement from Robert Stacy McCain a few weeks ago:

Rumors that Perry allies are planning a scorched-earth smear campaign against Herman Cain.

Remember you heard that rumor here first and, when the hit-piece on Cain comes out, remember that Perry’s supporters are behind it.

http://theothermccain.com/2011/10/03/attention-bandwagon-jumpers-all-aboard-the-fatty-mcawesome-express/

_______________

Why would Perry supporters want to get a conservative out of the race?


86 posted on 10/06/2011 11:33:40 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: MNJohnnie
Gee, maybe I did read the sentences, and comprehend it. Here it is again, in all of its glory:

But it would depend upon who got the nomination. I will support who gets the nomination. I know I have said that there are some people right now who I cannot support, but I wouldn’t say no to it.

So, here he is saying (a) "I will support who gets the nomination," but (b) he never retracts, expressly or by necessary implication, his prior statement that he will not support Perry if Perry gets the nomination.

So, which is it? The two statements are mutually exclusive - either one or the other is true, but not both.

Then there's the question of what to do with this sentence:

I know I have said that there are some people right now who I cannot support, but I wouldn’t say no to it.

What, exactly, is he saying here? Is he saying, notwithstanding his statement that he would not support Perry if Perry got the nomination, that he would not necessarily say "no" to being the VP on a Perry ticket? If that's the case, then logic got chucked a long, long time ago.

So, what to do, what to do?

And for the record - as I have repeatedly, in many, many places posted - I have both Perry and Cain about equally listed on my list of favored candidates; I really did mean it when I said that Mr. Cain has an interesting background - it's no mean feat to be on the board of a Federal Reserve Bank - and I'm hoping that, unlike Romney - Mr. Cain will use his business experience to inform him about how government unnecessarily crimps and harms private enterprise, and use that experience to guide the development of saner economic policies (and not, ala Romney, simply use his skills to run government like an uber-competitor to private enterprise).
87 posted on 10/06/2011 11:34:26 AM PDT by Oceander (Why vote for Mitt "Mini-me Obama" Romney when you can have the real Obama?)
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To: Def Conservative
Cain already said he wants Romney.

No he didn't. He said he would play the game and said if Romney would ditch his jobs plan. He then laughed and said NEWT!

88 posted on 10/06/2011 11:34:41 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You use it all. Perry says drones/technology, boots on the ground and fencing in urban areas.

An incomplete fence does little good. That has been shown in SE Arizona which now bears the brunt of illegal immigration traffic since the fence was built in California.

Drones? Don't make me laugh. That is little different than the virtual fence - a claim that technology can replace the proven force multiplier of a sturdy fence.

So in other words, Cain is a long ways ahead of Perry on this issue. You just don't want to admit that. And you never have.

89 posted on 10/06/2011 11:35:06 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
You did a lot more than just support him, CW. You actively shilled for Rudy and attacked his critics on FR.

All anyone has to do is see how you talk to me on this forum and how I talk to you. It should leave little doubt about who shills and attacks whom -- vs who advocates and remains civil.

90 posted on 10/06/2011 11:35:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cain believes in a physical fence that stretches across the entire border. He also believes that we should not provide any entitlements to illegal immigrants. He is against the Dream Act.

These are glaring differences.


91 posted on 10/06/2011 11:35:24 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore
Yes, he has made some criticism of Romney in the past, but asked TODAY, of the hypothetical invitation to run as an eventual nominee's #2, he solely lists Perry as being uncomfortable? Milt Romney is the EGREGIOUS and OBVIOUS answer to this question.

And all within the context of this stupid backdrop MSM-fueled and phony made up "rock" story?! That sounds "troubling" to me; almost like Michael Steele.

92 posted on 10/06/2011 11:35:58 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He wouldn’t pick you.

Second it is increasingly obvious he is incapable of going hard after Romney which to me? RED FLAG.

But doesn’t matter. Romney will win because Cain can’t beat him and really isn’t trying hard to beat him. the only person he, Michelle, or the rest seem to want to beat is Perry.


93 posted on 10/06/2011 11:36:30 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: dirtboy

Dirtboy,

I’d still never consider McCain to even come close to Perry’s viability in this current election cycle. Obama trounced McCain in 2008, and would still, trounce McCain today, even with his weakened, unpopular presidency. Obama would lose to Perry today in a landslide.


94 posted on 10/06/2011 11:37:18 AM PDT by motoman
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To: shield

Herb is still Mitt’s attack dog, and just another cog for the establishment GOP.


95 posted on 10/06/2011 11:37:25 AM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: Oceander
Of a vice presidential slot in general, Cain said, “I would not say no to being vice president of the United States. But it would depend upon who got the nomination. I will support who gets the nomination. I know I have said that there are some people right now who I cannot support, but I wouldn’t say no to it. I could say yes. But it has to be someone who I believe I can complement them in their job by being able to bring my skills to the table.”

I have to say, Mr. Cain has a very interesting background, but he needs to stop waffling within the very same sentence, and he needs to stop surreptitiously carrying water for Romney.

There is no waffling there. He's being polite. He said he would consider a VP spot, depending on who the nominee is. If someone is the polar opposite of you, why would you consider being their VP?

96 posted on 10/06/2011 11:38:32 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Netizen

I wouldn’t be comfortable with that scenario either.

I want Perry to select someone with experience in foreign policy, maybe, or at least experience in something.

Easy for Cain to say.

He’s never been on the front lines.


97 posted on 10/06/2011 11:38:37 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
All anyone has to do is see how you talk to me on this forum and how I talk to you. It should leave little doubt about who shills and attacks whom -- vs who advocates and remains civil.

I love your non-denial denial, CW.

And your 'who, ME?' nonsense about not attacking Cain when your posts clearly are doing just that show who is taking the path of deception. I would have more respect if you would just fess up that you are in attack dog mode against Cain. But you don't, and then wonder why folks get sick of your little miss innocent play-acting.

98 posted on 10/06/2011 11:38:53 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Maybe you should spend your time posting articles telling us Gov Perry's positions on the issues are instead of spending all your time making up absurd attack posts about Cain.

And do try to make them about ISSUES for change. We do not need yet another string of "Perry is a wonderful guy who did a bunch of great things in Texas" Cult of Personality style postings.

Where are the articles about Perry's ideas and issues papers about what he would do as President?

99 posted on 10/06/2011 11:39:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: dirtboy
Drones? Don't make me laugh. That is little different than the virtual fence - a claim that technology can replace the proven force multiplier of a sturdy fence.

Perry has gone to Israel to study their use of drones and fencing and their geographical situation and their national security issues. Janet Napolitano has talked of using drones on the U.S. border with Canada so it is an option they have but refuse to use on our southern border. Tell our enemies in the Middle East how useless drones are. They will tell you you are uninformed.

100 posted on 10/06/2011 11:39:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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