Posted on 09/25/2011 10:37:58 AM PDT by Clairity
Right.
UH huh
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I thought this was quite enlightening on you page.
Guess we all know where you are coming from now...
If the man cannot string three coherent sentences together, how in the living heck can he expound on the merits of conservatism?
(IMO) Perry's "compassion" is based on Biblical concepts not the phony, political-pandering compassion used to implement big-government, big-spending solutions. His compassion is supported (IMO) by a Biblical premise that speaks to me as a Christian.
Matthew 25:40-46 NIV
"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.' "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' "He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
Certainly the above concept doesn't imply that our government should financially support illegals. It's intended for individuals. But I think it's where Perry is coming from when he says "through no fault of their own." He seems to consider those children "the least of these." I also think the above concept is what he meant by "heartless."
I've thought long and hard about this particular subject because I am totally against amnesty for illegals. In-state tuition should seem counter-productive to border security. But most illegals come to America looking for freedom and opportunity and to escape the corruption and violence in their country. Few, if any, cross the border with the immediate goal of sending their children to college.
Stopping illegal immigration must be a priority. Cutting off free benefits to illegals must be a priority. But what do we do with their children who know no home other than America? I don't know the answer, but allowing them to pay for a college education doesn't seem counter-productive to me. It seems productive.
I beg to differ. He’s just the opposite. I have a friend who worked in his guv’s office for 5 years...said he is one of the nicest and most conservative guys around.
He’s out of touch with Americans on their unwillingness to sacrifice more life and treasure so he can accomodate illegals and crown himself big hearted. The families and neighbors of Americans who have died for this kind of internationalist treason, are not cheering. The tax payers and the unemployed are not cheering.
But even in the face of the hue and cry, he sticks by his guns on that “high moral ground” of a treasonous ruler. We don’t have any more room for this arrogant game of political correctness. The elitists are oppressing the nation in the interests of foreigners and we are plum suckered out. Hopefully, he’ll figure out what is going on and recover. I appreciate his tenth amendment ideas.
That’s *exactly* what I was going to say.
So ditto.
Don't generalize...be specific.
If an 'illegal' pays the instate tuition, he is paying more than enough.
The bigger problem is the government 'unions', who are gaming the education system for their own greedy benefit.
Sorry but imo, Perry in on the winning side of the issue. He signed onto law, that was unanimously passed by the legislature.
If they continue their tuition and immigration attacks on Perry, Romney and Santorum will lose both arguments and their chance of winning nomination.
I’m not an expert in in-state tuition, but according to conservative talk radio host Howie Carr it’s on a sliding scale. The less your income, the lower your charges. Carr says most illegals report zero income. Do officials figures exist to affirm or contest his assertions?
Your rhetoric, if ever allowed to be included in the Republican platform, would be used against the Republican party in the most vile and diabolical way by Obama and will seriously jeopardize our chances of shoveling him and his ilk out of our government.
Fact is, this is not a simple black and white issue. It is absolutely the wrong issue to put at the top of the Republican ticket. Candidates trying to kill Perry as the front runner are creating a landmine for for us if they prevail in their tactics.
All of the screaming and blow-back by the mass deportation and border fence crowds is extremely over the top and will kill our chances of winning the general election.
The following article provides some good perspective on the Texas law, which is no different than at least another dozen states, including yours, which have the same law currently in effect:
No, if I did the same thing illegals did and entered Texas UNLAWFULLY and then attended a Texas school for three years, I'm pretty sure I would end up in prison when I was discovered, not awarded "in-state tutition" at their finest universities.
Or am I mistaken and the fugitives from the other 49 states all enjoying discounted tuition in Texas now?
You better get a grip on reality. Illegal aliens violate the law, that is why they are known as illegal aliens.
You may not be aware of this but you have to comply with US law in order to legally enter the country.
It doesn’t matter what the bill says just like it doesn’t matter what immigration law says. What makes you believe that illegal aliens will comply with in state tuition requirements when they don’t abide by any other law?
We don't want illegal aliens living in America no matter what they pay.
Giving them perference over citizens means that American citizenship no longer has value.
Here’s something I’m not sure many are thinking about. The fact is that most universities don’t have an endless enrollment. They only accept a certain number of students each year. There are hundreds, if not thousands of US citizens that are turned down in Texas every year by the school of their choice. Some of those positions are taken by ILLEGAL ALIENS!
I sincerely feel for those across the border who are unfortunate. In a perfect world, they would have the same opportunities. But the world isn’t perfect, nor is their conduct when they willingly break our laws. They’re not forced to break our laws, they choose to. And currently, when they do, they take positions from those US citizens that don’t break the law. Does that sound even remotely fair?
For crying out loud folks, it’s not like we’re sending the illegals to the gas chamber, we’re simply telling them to play by the rules like scores of thousands of immigrants do every year, or they can’t play. Simple.
Excellent points.
What the bill says (by now, "the bill" is "the law in Texas") matters as a point of comparison with what proponents CLAIM are the requirements to obtain in-state tuition. "On a path to citizenship" and "working toward citizenship" is, in actuality, filing a paper with the sate that says the person will apply for legal presence, when such an application is possible under federal law.
IMO, that act does not amount to "on a path toward citizenship."
PING for later response, got to head to work.
You'll have to forgive me for having no clue what you're babbling about. Is this some kind of Perrybot code? Drinking and Posting?
Who is the little boy holding the shield?
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