Tea party, conservative groups call on Congress to reject E-Verify

The Michigan Messenger ^ | 9/19/2011 | Nicolas Mendoza

[tedw]

With legislation pending both in the U.S. Congress and the Michigan House of Representatives to require employers to use a new federal immigration database, even conservative and Tea Party groups are speaking out against the idea.

[tedw]

I have to say it. Some conservatives are just plain dumb. Lamar Smith has introduced legislation to make E-verify mandatory in the United States. This is a no brainer. E-verify is an effective solution to the immigration and every real conservative should support it. There really is no valid reason to oppose and the " conservatives" who signed this letter in Politico should be ashamed of themselves.

[ari-freedom]

E-verify is stupid. We should be trying to get rid of burdensome regulations. Look, if a company is found to be employing illegals then it should be punished. But this is just another bureaucracy that affects all companies.

[ari-freedom]

btw the title is
“Tea party, conservative groups call on Congress to reject E-Verify”

[Jane Long]

Which "conservatives" signed the "Polutico" letter against E-verify? I refuse to click on Polutico!

You're right...it should be a no-brainer. Get the illegals out and off of welfare, etc. and see how much this country saves not having to feed, educate, shelter and incarcerate illegals!

Cheap labor really isn't so cheap :(

[Tennessee Nana]

E-verify is an effective solution to the immigration
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E-Verify has bothing to do with immigration..

its to stop illegal aliens from working in the US

and also people here with only a visitors or student visa...

REAL immigrants have green cards abnd can work here legally...

[cripplecreek]

An open letter from leaders of the groups Take Back Washington, Tea Party Nation, Downsize DC, GOProud, the D.C. Tea Party and other conservative groups calls on members of Congress to reject the Legal Workforce Act,

Not the most conservative bunch despite a couple of them leeching off the tea party movement.

[ari-freedom]

OK if you think AttackWatch is bad, imagine AttackWatch + this e-verify database

[Izzy Dunne]

The article you point to does not have the title you provided. That's your own opinion, masquerading as an article title.

There really is no valid reason to oppose

Any time anybody says that, I beware.

[tedw]

Here are the signers:
Sincerely,

Take Back Washington
Kathryn Serkes, Founder

Liberty Coalition

Michael Ostrolenk, National Director

Institute for Liberty

Andrew Langer, President

Downsize DC

Jim Babka, President

American Freedom Agenda

Bruce Fein, President

Rutherford Institute

John Whitehead, President

Competitive Enterprise Institute

Alex Nowrasteh, Policy Analyst

American Policy Center

Tom DeWeese, President

Republican Liberty Caucus

Dave Nalle, National Chairman

Tea Party Nation

Judson Phillips, Founder

Washington D.C. Tea Party

Thomas Whitmore, Founder

Floridians Against REAL ID

Paul Henry, Executive Director

Secure Arkansas

Jeannie Burlsworth, Chairwoman

November Patriots

Richard D. Fry, Founder

Taxpayers Protection Alliance

David Williams, President

Gun Owners of America

Paul Garfield, Michigan Representative,

Constitutional Alliance

Mark Lerner, President

Take Back Kentucky

Norman Davis, Founder

U.S. Bill of Rights Foundation

Dane Von Breichenruchardt

Kitchen Table Patriots

Ana Puig & Anastasia Przybylski Co-Founders

Conservative Rebublican Women

Sahar Hekmati, President

Able Americans

Melissa Ortiz, Founder

American Grassroots Coalition

Jennifer Hulsey, Co-Founder

GOProud

Jimmy LaSalvia Executive Director

Eagle Forum, Palm Springs Chapter

Christine Michas, Founder/President

Washington State Campaign for Liberty

Alex Rion, President

Hispanic Leadership Fund

Mario H. Lopez, President

Tony DeMott, Michigan State Coordinator

Campaign for Liberty

[tedw]

Here are the signers:
Sincerely,

Take Back Washington
Kathryn Serkes, Founder

Liberty Coalition

Michael Ostrolenk, National Director

Institute for Liberty

Andrew Langer, President

Downsize DC

Jim Babka, President

American Freedom Agenda

Bruce Fein, President

Rutherford Institute

John Whitehead, President

Competitive Enterprise Institute

Alex Nowrasteh, Policy Analyst

American Policy Center

Tom DeWeese, President

Republican Liberty Caucus

Dave Nalle, National Chairman

Tea Party Nation

Judson Phillips, Founder

Washington D.C. Tea Party

Thomas Whitmore, Founder

Floridians Against REAL ID

Paul Henry, Executive Director

Secure Arkansas

Jeannie Burlsworth, Chairwoman

November Patriots

Richard D. Fry, Founder

Taxpayers Protection Alliance

David Williams, President

Gun Owners of America

Paul Garfield, Michigan Representative,

Constitutional Alliance

Mark Lerner, President

Take Back Kentucky

Norman Davis, Founder

U.S. Bill of Rights Foundation

Dane Von Breichenruchardt

Kitchen Table Patriots

Ana Puig & Anastasia Przybylski Co-Founders

Conservative Rebublican Women

Sahar Hekmati, President

Able Americans

Melissa Ortiz, Founder

American Grassroots Coalition

Jennifer Hulsey, Co-Founder

GOProud

Jimmy LaSalvia Executive Director

Eagle Forum, Palm Springs Chapter

Christine Michas, Founder/President

Washington State Campaign for Liberty

Alex Rion, President

Hispanic Leadership Fund

Mario H. Lopez, President

Tony DeMott, Michigan State Coordinator

Campaign for Liberty

[tedw]

No masquerade intended. I dont post often so I dont know the protocol. It is my opinion.

If you have a valid reason to oppose this E-verify legislation lets hear it.

[tedw]

No masquerade intended. I dont post often so I dont know the protocol. It is my opinion.

If you have a valid reason to oppose this E-verify legislation lets hear it.

[tedw]

No masquerade intended. I dont post often so I dont know the protocol. It is my opinion.

If you have a valid reason to oppose this E-verify legislation lets hear it.

[ari-freedom]

The dangerous and intrusive precedent set by the bill opens the floodgate of additional incursive and contentious employment verification hurdles. Mission creep is the signature of all bureaucracies. After enactment of the Legal Workforce Act, employers could soon be required to verify whether employees are delinquent in the payment of federal, state, or local taxes, in compliance with child support or alimony decrees, on a terrorist watch list, or convicted or even accused of crime.

We are born with an unalienable right to acquire property through our own labor. Private property is a bulwark against government oppression. Requiring citizens to secure permission from the Department of Homeland Security to enjoy the fruits of their labor is an unacceptable violation of our civil liberties.

Errors in the verification process will be practically immune from timely legal redress and violate another constitutional tenet. Citizens have already lost their jobs after DHS deemed them not “work-authorized.” The CBO reports that in 2009 about 80,000 workers likely received erroneous findings from the system and may have lost their jobs.

Fearing this retaliation, free speech will chill and citizens will be loath to criticize government.

[2harddrive]

As a Jewess in the US, I ask: Are you aware that Obama’s CONNECTICUT social security number was keyed into E-verify and came back as “probably FRAUDULENT”?

[Dr. Thorne]

E-verify is an extremely useful tool for determining eligibility for employment. Check out numbersUSA.com for a complete rundown on it's effectiveness.

Is there any other accurate mechanism for determining whether illegals are using phony SS#'s? Do you have a system for determining if companies are employing illegals besides asking them nicely?

Some people would complain about the Second Coming.

[Admin Moderator]

Please do not alter the original title. It keeps the Search function from working and someone is likely to post the same article again, which means people won't post to your thread.

Thanks

[ari-freedom]

Conclusion

E-verify, in short, is a national identification and surveillance system run by the DHS. It will lead to even more bureaucracy, bigger government, greater surveillance, and less freedom.

H.R. 2164 should never leave committee. It is anathema to limited government, the right to privacy, free enterprise and prosperity. It violates the philosophy of the Constitution and intent of the Framers by subordinating the liberty of citizens to the administrative convenience of government. And the Founding Fathers would have rebelled against such a staggering Federal intrusion into every workplace in the nation and our personal civil liberties.

[ari-freedom]

1) don’t allow them in the country in the first place
2) don’t give them any welfare
3) don’t allow sanctuary cities
4) be on top of those with temporary visas
5) deport all criminals

[Buckeye McFrog]

If you tell employers they can only hire legals, then they need some tool to tell them who is legal and who is not.

I understand the fears of laying the groundwork for “666”, but I think they are overblown in this case.

On the other hand the plan the Indian government is pursuing to build a biometric database of all of their 1+ billion citizens is scary, scary stuff.