Such blatant hubris. She should also sue them for legal fees among other things!
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Posted on 09/17/2011 7:37:59 AM PDT by marktwain
Looks like all she got were her firearms. I’d like to see her take a chunk out of the chief’s rear end.
Wonder how many cops homes they had to raid to find all the firearms.?
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She should get a huge settlement, but it says in the last part of the story that her legal action was “tabled”.
To have his happen to any American is an outrage, and to a veteran is dispicable, nazi-like behavior by our thug government.
I am a very strong 2nd Amendment supporter, and doubly so for returning veterans. But to me, when medical personnel request law enforcement to check on a patient it tells me that there is a concern for the safety and well being of the patient. We don't yet know if she expressed a desire to harm herself or others, and/or if that was communicated to the police. Without knowing if she made such a statement, the actions of the police cannot be adequately judged.
confiscated the collection from her home when she was away.
Is there anything about the above statement that would make you think a warrant was ever lawfully served?
I’m havin a bit of trouble here making the connection...
Ditto that.
If a bully doesn’t suffer pain and discomfort, we can’t expect him to behave differently.
This veteran and firearms issue is getting a bit out of control. I am receiving treatment at a VA Hospital and every time I go there they always ask me...â€Have you been feeling depressed lately?†I have thought about this question many times and I of course say...â€No.†Any veteran that is a gun owner beware of that question. It could come back to haunt you.
Why were the cops aware of her collection in the first place?
I will assume the cops had no warrant or probable cause.
This would then be simple larceny theft.
Jack-booted Thugs...
Or is she was there for an ingrown toenail.
Indeed! Maybe she was distraught over frizzy hair. Or like most women, she has a closet full of shoes, and can't decide whether to wear a pair she already wore, or to get a new pair.
A lot of folks here blaming police, but it was the VA that tipped them off.
Now...was there a warrent issued?
I agree.
This was outright theft. The D.A. should be pressing charges.
I have no problem with them temporarily taking the firearms based on the information in the article being 100% factual and not some made up pretext to enter her apartment in search of the guns. I.E an anti-gun neighbor complained or an ‘anonymous’ tip.
1. Reported missing
2. Police opened her apartment to check for her
3. They find a cache of guns and the owner is reported missing.
Police should take the guns for safety and security reasons ... since they did essentially break into with her being reported as missing.
However, they should have immediately returned the guns to her after checking on the legality. Now I know that may sound extreme to some, but the check simply has to be done once the firearms are in police custody and being readied to hand back to the owner. They have to make sure that they are not arming somebody who otherwise wouldn’t be entitled. Imagine the outcry that would ensue if they gave’em back without checking then discovered that she couldn’t legally own them — after she guns down few people.
It would be nice if more troubled folks sought God and faith, than the VA.
The VA medicates and dabbles in secular counseling.
I lost a dear friend last year, to PTSD and a self-inflicted gun shot.
She had the VA, but no faith.
VA calls the police: “We are concerned about Ms Rice, who lives at xxxxxx. Would you please check to see that everything is all right?
Police go to xxxxxx. They knock. No answer. The police think, “We have to make sure Ms Rice is not dead or dying inside”.
Police break down the door. They look around. They find the guns. “OMG guns! We cannot leave them here unsecured or where a possibly unstable Ms Rice would have access to them!” “We do not even know if they are all legal!” Bundle them up and impound them.
Now, they do not want to return them, because “If anything would happen, we might be liable”.
Just speculation, but the intersection of the Nanny State with absolute terror of litigation produces horrific results.
“I am a very strong 2nd Amendment supporter, and doubly so for returning veterans. But to me, when medical personnel request law enforcement to check on a patient it tells me that there is a concern for the safety and well being of the patient. We don’t yet know if she expressed a desire to harm herself or others, and/or if that was communicated to the police. Without knowing if she made such a statement, the actions of the police cannot be adequately judged.”
Bullshiite!! The VA does this on a routine basis. My son missed 2 appointments at the Tucson VA hospital last year. After missing the 2nd one I was paid a visit by Yuma County deputies. Law enforcement has no right to confiscate property without cause
Until you find out EXACTLY what information was given to the Lakewood Police, I will render judgement, and not before then.
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