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FARAGO: Was CIA behind Operation Fast and Furious?
The Washington Times ^ | August 11, 2011 | Robert Farago

Posted on 08/17/2011 6:18:30 AM PDT by bkopto

According to a CIA insider, the agency had a strong hand in creating, orchestrating and exploiting Operation Fast and Furious.

The CIA’s motive is clear enough: The U.S. government is afraid the Los Zetas drug cartel will mount a successful coup d’etat against the government of Felipe Calderon.

Founded by ex-Mexican special forces, the Zetas already control huge swaths of Mexican territory. They have the organization, arms and money needed to take over the entire country.

Former CIA pilot Robert Plumlee and former CIA operative and DEA Director Phil Jordan recently said the brutally efficient Mexican drug cartel has stockpiled thousands of weapons to disrupt and influence Mexico’s national elections in 2012. There’s a very real chance the Zetas cartel could subvert the political process completely, as it has throughout the regions it controls.

In an effort to prevent a Los Zetas takeover, Uncle Sam has gotten into bed with the rival Sinaloa cartel, which has close ties to the Mexican military.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; dea; dhs; doj; fastfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; obama
A plausible hypothesis. What did Panetta know and when did he know it?
1 posted on 08/17/2011 6:18:33 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: bkopto
---Uncle Sam has gotten into bed with the rival Sinaloa cartel, which has close ties to the Mexican military. --

--I find it hard to believe we would need to "arm" a group with close ties to the Mexican military--

--as far as I can tell, this was an attempt by the malAdministration to provide an excuse to impose gun control domestically---

2 posted on 08/17/2011 6:38:16 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: bkopto
Recent court filings by former Sinaloa cartel member Jesus Vicente Zambada Niebla, currently in U.S. custody, reveal that the United States allowed the Sinaloas to fly a 747 cargo plane packed with cocaine into American airspace - unmolested.

When did this 747 allegedly enter the U.S.?

3 posted on 08/17/2011 6:38:34 AM PDT by fso301
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To: bkopto

EVERY aspect of Truman’s “National Security Act of 1947” (CIA, DoD) has turned out to be a First Class ClusterSwive!


4 posted on 08/17/2011 6:41:10 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: bkopto
I have serious doubts the intent is to influence the outcome of the 2012 Mexican elections.

It's just too similar to Bill Clinton’s buddies the Chinese shipping full auto weapons into the US during the 1996 election.

I believe the intent is to influence the outcome of the 2012 US elections, not Mexican.

5 posted on 08/17/2011 6:41:19 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: bkopto
This would explain the promotions, and the desire to affect the outcome of Mexican politics has had a lot to do with otherwise "strange" presidential policy decisions (including immigration policy) for many, many years.

Panetta was hugely opposed to CIA ops in support of the Contras, back in that day, and congressional Democrat control over this administration is legendary. Still, hypocrisy is nothing new to that Party within that Party. It might explain Panetta's promotion as well. It implicates this president in the whole FUBAR situation.

6 posted on 08/17/2011 6:43:48 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: bkopto

How convenient!

Set up some anonymous spook to take the fall, and then of course all of the hearings have to be closed-door and classified.

Buy this one and I have a Chinese made Bay Bridge I’d like to sell ya.


7 posted on 08/17/2011 6:50:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Its quite natural that people are simply seeking a competent thoughtful purpose or leader where none exists. We seek a mastermind rather than accept that these things are almost random or the end of the fiscal year spend out project. A perfect example of a “Who’s your daddy?” exercise in projection so to speak. Sad but we have Zero leader.


8 posted on 08/17/2011 7:02:10 AM PDT by keving (We get the government we vote for)
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This sounds like disinformation planted in the Washington Times to make the Fast and Furious menace sound somewhat noble:

"We were trying to save Mexico!"

9 posted on 08/17/2011 7:18:51 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: rellimpank

I agree, Fast and Furious was an attempt to bolster the claim in the US that guns are bad, assault weapons are evil and should be restricted. We would not be arming the Sinaloa cartel to fight a civil war by buying semi auto rifles 3 or 4 at a time from local gunshops. We would be sending boatloads of military grade weapons, which is what we have done all over the world. this is a poor attempt at a cover story, and only a fool would buy into it.


10 posted on 08/17/2011 7:30:08 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: bkopto
I don't know how much of what Farago says about gun issues can be trusted. Here's his words from his website:
"In February 2010, I started The Truth About Guns (TTAG). While I’m committed to Americans’ right to bear arms, I am open to all sides of all arguments on all gun-related issues. In other words, I’m a family man first, an American second, a journalist third and then a gun owner."

LINK

A "journalist before a gun owner" tells it all. Just what gun owners need a "gun website" advancing the journalist take on the gun rights and gun issues.

Similarly, in this article, the author does not even notice the main player in Fast and Furious, Holder's DOJ. And yet it is the DOJ that controls the ATF (along with the FBI) and is the department that enforces all federal gun laws. It is throught the DOJ that the anti-gun is implemented.

So, while the CIA may well have been involved, leaving out the fact that Holder's DOJ put the local AUSAs (not the ATF) in charge of the operations, should cause gun owner to suspect Farago's journalistic agenda.

11 posted on 08/17/2011 7:33:01 AM PDT by drpix
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To: bkopto
CORRECTION:

the anti-gun is implemented = the anti-gun agenda is implemented

12 posted on 08/17/2011 7:35:33 AM PDT by drpix
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To: bkopto

I’ve been wondering when someone was going to ask about the CIA’s possible involvement...


13 posted on 08/17/2011 7:41:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: bkopto

What’s the difference? Zetas or anyone else in the Mexican government, they are all drug cartels.


14 posted on 08/17/2011 7:50:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: bkopto
Just to be clear here....

The theory is that the CIA was worried about a drug cartels growing power, so they empowered.........a drug cartel ?

Wait, what ??????????

Drug cartel controlling government is bad, to prevent them, we armed another drug cartel, which would then be able to control the government which would be bad........This makes sense ?

Thats like opening the door of your house to bloods so that you can keep crips out of your house, because you don't want gangs in your house.

15 posted on 08/17/2011 2:37:34 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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