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When is a gun concealed? New law clarifies accidental weapon exposure issue; goes into effect Oct. 1
The St. Augustine Record (Fla.) ^ | August 7, 2011 | RYAN BUFFA

Posted on 08/08/2011 11:04:43 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/08/2011 11:04:50 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; OXENinFLA
BANG!
2 posted on 08/08/2011 11:07:04 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
A Florida law that goes into effect in two months expands the rights of gun-toters

They just can't help themselves.

3 posted on 08/08/2011 11:08:18 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
"Vice Mayor of Miami Gardens Aaron Campbell said, 'This probably passed because of someone from the NRA, someone who doesn't care about urban conditions.' "

Got news for you, asshat Vice Mayor -- it's your 'urban conditions' where these laws are needed the most.

Whiny statist putz.


4 posted on 08/08/2011 11:09:11 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem
Vice Mayor of Miami Gardens Aaron Campbell said, "This probably passed because of someone from the NRA, someone who doesn't care about urban conditions."

How insulting! I'm an NRA member; and I don't care about your urban conditions; and I assure you I had NOTHING to do with passing this law!

5 posted on 08/08/2011 11:10:01 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: neverdem

if you’re exposed, you’re doing it wrong.


6 posted on 08/08/2011 11:16:05 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: neverdem

I have a related question - when does ‘open-carry’ become ‘brandishing’?

We’re doing some home repairs for my folks while they’re on vacation, and I stayed there alone one night and took a 38 along - small enough that the neighbors wouldn’t really notice me carrying it in, and it just made me wonder where that line is.


7 posted on 08/08/2011 11:17:15 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: WayneS

My guess is that “urban conditions” is code for “black on black crime”, but the mayor is too busy being PC to address conditions in particular neighborhoods to actually solve the problem. Dems will never understand that when they presume persons of color are incapable of decent behavior, they are simply playing into the hands of the lesser elements of society.


8 posted on 08/08/2011 11:18:25 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: nina0113

brandishing is threatening while showing and/or pointing said weapon.


9 posted on 08/08/2011 11:20:58 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
if you’re exposed, you’re doing it wrong.

If you have to worry about being exposed, THE LAW IS WRONG.

10 posted on 08/08/2011 11:25:13 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

We have a winner!


11 posted on 08/08/2011 11:32:09 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: nina0113

Keep it in its holster and don’t talk about it and it’s a pretty safe bet you are not brandishing.


12 posted on 08/08/2011 11:34:54 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Pecos

I took urban to mean a city or a town. As in someone openly carrying a firearm in a town or a city may make the citizens uneasy.


13 posted on 08/08/2011 11:39:05 AM PDT by GreenvillePatriot
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To: neverdem
Firearms are still not allowed on school property, career centers, bars, college or university property,

Hmm.. and where do most mass shootings occur?

14 posted on 08/08/2011 11:39:20 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: nina0113

If you are carrying it in your hand they can probably try to stick you with ‘brandishing’. But if you are in your own yard, keeping it mostly, or completely hidden, and there isn’t anyone near by for you to be brandishing it ‘at’ then you are probably safe.


15 posted on 08/08/2011 12:07:53 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: neverdem

This article is worthless. As a FL carrier I am intereted in not being at risk if I carry on a windy day. From this article I can’t tell what is and isn’t legal after this law. Now I have to go check some other sites and find out waht this really means.


16 posted on 08/08/2011 12:09:32 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: neverdem
The law also allows registered firearm owners to have weapons in their cars.

I don't recall anything in the 2A requiring registration.

17 posted on 08/08/2011 12:10:44 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: TalonDJ

I was afraid actually to touch it in public so I carried the belt by the middle in my hand with the holster hanging down. I figured that would be safe from the ‘ooh! I see a GUN! Better call the cops!’ crowd.


18 posted on 08/08/2011 12:12:11 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: Pecos

an Armed Society

Well, in the first place an armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. For me, politeness is a sine qua non of civilization. That’s a personal evaluation only. But gunfighting has a strong biological use. We do not have enough things that kill off the weak and the stupid these days. But to stay alive as an armed citizen a man has to be either quick with his wits or with his hands, preferably both. It’s a good thing.

Robert A. Heinlein (1907-1988),
spoken by Mordan Claude in
Beyond This Horizon (1942)


19 posted on 08/08/2011 12:15:11 PM PDT by itsLUCKY2B (?Borders, Language, and Culture.?)
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To: neverdem

gun-toters?

talk about bias!


20 posted on 08/08/2011 12:17:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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