Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Deafening silence greets honour killing
Toronto Sun ^ | 8/5/2011 | Michele Mandel

Posted on 08/05/2011 9:30:47 AM PDT by silentknight

TORONTO - Another honour killing in our midst and the silence is deafening.

Shaher Bano Shahdady was just 21, a young mother who wanted to live her Canadian life as a free Canadian woman. And for that, she was strangled to death in front of her toddler.

From the Baloch region of Pakistan, she came to Toronto as a little girl. At 14, her father, Mullah Abdul Ghafoor, sent her back to Pakistan to study at a religious fundamentalist madrassa and a few years later she was forced into an arranged marriage with her first cousin.

But her precious son was her ticket back home.

Snip

But she had to sponsor her husband here and his arrival in May forced her back into the cage she had struggled so long to escape. He wanted her to wear a burka, to stay away from Facebook, to put aside any plans she had of resuming a secular education.

“She rebelled,” explains Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress. “With the help of social services, she got an apartment for herself and her son. She was leaving her husband and asking for a divorce. How dare she? It would dishonour everyone.”

She and her son moved out July 1. After just three weeks of freedom, she was dead.

(Excerpt) Read more at torontosun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chrischristie; crushislam; islam; islamicviolence; killislam; murder; muslims; obama; palin; religionofpeace; rop; wife
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-59 last
To: silentknight
“She rebelled,” explains Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress. “With the help of social services, she got an apartment for herself and her son. She was leaving her husband and asking for a divorce. How dare she? It would dishonour everyone."

And people wonder why Muzzies are hated.

41 posted on 08/05/2011 2:41:18 PM PDT by hattend (As always... FUJM.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RWGinger
The point here with this story is how sharia/ islam fosters and encourages honor killing of women.

Oh, I'm not arguing that. I know how these creeps are. I'm just saying that not EVERY instance of man-kills-wife is Islam, and this may be one of those "sometimes a banana is just a banana" cases. I think sometimes we get a little too self-righteous. Islam sucks, that is my motto to the death. But let's not pretend every evil in their world is tied to it. Especially evils that aren't specific to them.

To try to tie a lunatic murderer or murderers here with the muslims who kills in the name of honor is ludicris.

Ludicrous. Not to be confused with the rapper. And I don't disagree with what you are saying. But let's not call *every* instance of domestic violence an "honor killing" just because they happen to be muslim.

42 posted on 08/05/2011 3:09:35 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: silentknight

The lesson here is that if you want to divorce a muslim man, get a gun then file.


43 posted on 08/05/2011 3:16:38 PM PDT by Ford4000
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: econjack; nuconvert
And they call Islam the religion of peace. Nope. It’s a warrior cult code...period.

It's NOT a warrior cult. Muslims attack the weak and defenseless. Do you think 'warriors' bomb day care centers? Or elementary schools? They kill lots of teenage unarmed girls... for so called honor. They bomb our soldiers with road bombs - but almost NEVER have firefights.

Men of Islam are cowards.

They hide behind children, babies and women if someone's shooting at them. Or they strap a bomb to a child and have them walk into a crowd. I can't see how that could in any way be considered 'warrior'. Please don't insult the brave among us by using that term in reference to a man who kills an unarmed woman in front of a child.

44 posted on 08/05/2011 5:02:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (This “wussification” of America is an on-going phenomenon.- freeper rokkitapps)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: A_perfect_lady

cite an example with a link and credibilre source of a muslims man killing a woman of his life that was not sharia sanctioned

cite just one


45 posted on 08/05/2011 5:57:21 PM PDT by RWGinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: RWGinger

Look, if you want to pretend only muslim men kill their women, you go right ahead. I do not care. I’ve said what I had to say and you won’t nag me into any kind of retraction. Until men in our own culture stop murdering women at the brisk rate our very own FOX news reports, I cannot consider this a uniquely Muslim problem.


46 posted on 08/05/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: A_perfect_lady

You can keep pretending you do not understand the topic all you want. the topics is HONOR killing

this remark of yours ,”I cannot consider this a uniquely Muslim problem.” is specious at best or ignorant at worst.
Until you can provide proof non muslim men kill their women including their daughters over issues like being too Americanized or wanting to get an education you have zero credibility.

Not one person in this thread has ever said that husbands killing their wives does not happen in all parts of the world including here in USA.
That is NOT the topic of this thread.
if you want to start a thread on that do so
but trying to link honor killings with loons who kill their wives here in USA just shows how little you understand sharia law and honor killings..
I am done with your tiresome attempts.


47 posted on 08/06/2011 8:07:03 AM PDT by RWGinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: A_perfect_lady

yes, it is in every culture....BUT Christians stand up and say it is EVIL, the Muslims don’t. Huge difference.


48 posted on 08/06/2011 8:13:34 AM PDT by tioga
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: RWGinger

What you do not understand is that not every killing automatically becomes an honor killing just because they are muslim.


49 posted on 08/06/2011 10:34:34 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: A_perfect_lady

AS I have asked you several times before but you conveniently never have an answer
Cite ONE killing of a female Muslim in North America by a relative, male or fmeal in last 10 years that is NOT an honor killing
cite just 1 and be able to provide credible evidence.

back it up


50 posted on 08/06/2011 5:53:15 PM PDT by RWGinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: RWGinger

No, I’m playing your childish game. You know and I know that men in our own culture murder women for leaving them every single day of the year. In our culture, I guess we call it a crime of passion. It’s a category, arbitrary and various, rather like your spelling.


51 posted on 08/06/2011 9:37:54 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: RWGinger; A_perfect_lady
and what happens to the murdering husbands

I can't say for Canada and the US, but in Britain or Australia, this is often considered to be a lesser offence. Killing ones spouse is not the same as murdering a fellow citizen.

Sentences tend to be light. Always, the behaviour of the dead victim is put on trial - did he or she provoke their killer? Usually, it is deemed to be so. Especially as they are not alive to give evidence.

In one case in Britain, a man who kicked his wife to death got a suspended sentence, for the judge noted that she was an alcoholic and would have 'tried the patience of a saint.' In an Australian case, a man who poured petrol on his de facto wife and set her on fire (she lives, but terribly maimed), received less than 5 months in prison. In another Australian case, a wife who burnt her husband alive walked free from court, with a suspended sentence, because he was said to be 'mentally abusive' towards her.

52 posted on 08/06/2011 9:56:02 PM PDT by BlackVeil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: BlackVeil

??
No one has ever EVER said men ( and women) don’t kill each other in every country in the world.
The OP is about muslim honor killing. get it? Honor killing which under sharia law allows men and families to kill one of their own in the name of muslim honor. Kill them for such offenses as being too westernized or wanting an education.

What about this act ( honor killing ) do you not get? This is NOT just about a husband or man killing or maiming his wife/ lover.
In muslim countries men who commit “ honor Killings” are not arrested.
Yes any man who brutally attacks a women is vile but Gee Louise this op is about sharia law/ islam and how it treats women>

that other poster has YET to cite one example of a non muslim man killing a woman for wanting an education or refusing to wear a head scarf.

Perhaps you or the other poster would like to start a thread on men who kill their wives> Then do it
Why are you trying to conflate the 2 issues in this thread?


53 posted on 08/07/2011 7:06:56 AM PDT by RWGinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: A_perfect_lady

Perhaps you will play the game by citing one example of a non muslim man murdering his daughter for becoming too westernized or for refusing to wear a head scarf?

If not then you have zero credibility.
You keep wanting to make an equivalency between what happens freely under sharia law with what happens under our laws. WHY??
Did anyone on this thread ever deny husbands murder their wives in our country too? NO

Why is it you feel the need to change the topic?


54 posted on 08/07/2011 7:29:21 AM PDT by RWGinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: RWGinger
Lady, you aren't even reading my posts, what do you know about what I've said? Seriously, can you read? Does THIS look like anything you've seen before on this thread?

When a suicide bomber yells "Allahu Akbar" and opens fire on a bunch of non-muslims, that's Islam at work.

When a muslim father murders his daughter because she refuses an arranged marriage, that's Islam at work.

When a muslim brother murders his sister because she's in love with a non-muslim, that's Islam at work.

When a muslim family murders their girl because she won't wear a burkah, that's Islam at work. Because these things don't happen in our culture.

When a man murders a woman for leaving him, that's probably testosterone at work. Because it happens in our culture too. A LOT.

Until you can pay me the courtesy of actually READING WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN TO YOU IN PREVIOUS POSTS I am not going to waste anymore time on you.

55 posted on 08/07/2011 8:30:38 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: RWGinger; A_perfect_lady
Perhaps you will play the game by citing one example of a non muslim man murdering his daughter for becoming too westernized or for refusing to wear a head scarf?

There is a book by US writer Karen Tintori, Unto the Daughters, about the after effects in her family of the killing of one of the women by her brothers. This took place in "Little Sicily" in Detroit. In later years, the place where they killed their sister - a public park - became the favorite place for family celebrations and commemorative photographs. The girl was killed for eloping with her lover, when her family had arranged another match.

In more recent times, there have been quite a number of such crimes in the Sikh community in Britain, and in Australia, too. Also in Australia, a man shot his 12 year old daughter dead, because she wanted to live with her mother, and there was a custody dispute.

I think you underestimate the extent of family violence. In the above case, on this thread, all I see is yet another woman who was killed when she tried to leave her husband. Statistics say that is one of the most risky things to do, anywhere. If her father had killed her for leaving her husband, then that would fit the category of an honor killing.

56 posted on 08/07/2011 11:57:12 AM PDT by BlackVeil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: BlackVeil

For God’s sake do you not understand the difference between sharia law and those incidents?
When did the incident you spoke of happen in Detroit? Was it sanctioned by the Catholic church or the laws of Michigan?

let me say ONE MORE TIME, S L O W L Y
yes there have been and will be loons in any country who murder woman in their care. and those people when caught will be prosecuted as they should be. Can the same be said about mislims in muslim countries committing HONOR KILLIGS?

do family killings happen? of course but at leat here in America they are not sanctioned by any church or law. and if the murderer is caught he is prosecuted.

There is NO eqivalency between loons murdering and what muslims do in every muslim country and even in civilized countries in accordance with sharia law.

I ma amazed at the people that seem willing to excuse honor killing by saying, well gee others have murdered family too.

Do any of you who want to excuse sharia law think the rest of us think it is ok for anyone to kill?
NO NO NO but those killers have nothing to do with muslims who kill in the name of their laws.
This is about islam and sharia law NOT about other people who commit heinous crimes.


57 posted on 08/07/2011 1:25:21 PM PDT by RWGinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: BlackVeil
I think you underestimate the extent of family violence. In the above case, on this thread, all I see is yet another woman who was killed when she tried to leave her husband. Statistics say that is one of the most risky things to do, anywhere.

Exactly, that is my ONLY point. People sometimes act like Islam is the sole cause of all the evils in the world, or all the evils in that culture. Hey, it's the cause of a lot of them, IMHO. But let's be honest... it's not humanity's only problem.

58 posted on 08/07/2011 3:13:51 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: RWGinger
I ma amazed at the people that seem willing to excuse honor killing by saying, well gee others have murdered family too.

No one is excusing an honor killing. We're saying this might not have been one. Can't figure out why you can't understand what I'm saying (but then I remind myself that you don't actually read what people post to you.)

59 posted on 08/07/2011 3:16:56 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-59 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson