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Congress to decide whether Super Congress could impose gun control
http://gunowners.org ^ | Monday, 01 August 2011 12:07 | GOA

Posted on 08/02/2011 10:10:37 AM PDT by ronnyquest

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The time is fast approaching, patriots, when you must decide whether to stand and deliver or cower and wither under the oppressive fascism of the US government. When is enough finally enough? Will you let the feds cross yet another line in the sand?
1 posted on 08/02/2011 10:10:41 AM PDT by ronnyquest
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You want them,come and get them.


2 posted on 08/02/2011 10:12:38 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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3 posted on 08/02/2011 10:13:56 AM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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When I know I have taken out at least 10 of these a$$holes to me I will rest easy in my grave .


4 posted on 08/02/2011 10:15:58 AM PDT by Renegade
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adoption of a UN gun control treaty


5 posted on 08/02/2011 10:18:10 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Drawn too many lines in the sand already.

Let’s get ready to rumble!


6 posted on 08/02/2011 10:19:47 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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Didn’t know the super congress had this power.

Though I am not surprised. The plans were for a North American Union a decade agao, and this will speed things along.


7 posted on 08/02/2011 10:20:47 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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I've got news for these a**hats, the so called "Super Congress" can't do anything unless the rest of the legislature(both houses)votes on it. They can suggest things, just as any other member of the legislature can do but the deciding factor are the votes of the whole legislature.

This BS of acting as if this stupid committee has some degree of power more than the whole body is just that: BS. As for calling them the "Super Congress" I strongly object to that.

8 posted on 08/02/2011 10:21:53 AM PDT by calex59
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This whole debt-ceiling debate was a smoke-screen. The goal the whole time was ramming through this dictatorial SuperCONgress.


9 posted on 08/02/2011 10:22:04 AM PDT by Roninf5-1
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The military have more weapons than Kongress. Right now they are not on Kongress’ side after that deal to gut the military finances. So Kongress..try and get em’ We’ll call in the Marines.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 10:22:10 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” Thomas Jefferson


11 posted on 08/02/2011 10:22:52 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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I don’t have any guns! Boating accident!


12 posted on 08/02/2011 10:24:11 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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Hmmmm.
I just re-read my copy of the United States Constitution.

I see nothing in there about anything like a, “Super Congress.”

I DO, however, see something about a, “Second Amendment....”


13 posted on 08/02/2011 10:27:51 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I can see 2012 from my house!" Jim Thompson, 7-16-2011)
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” adoption of a UN gun control treaty “

Go right ahead, start the next phase of this damn Civil War.

I seriously don’t believe that our country is going to survive until 2012.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 10:29:31 AM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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As much reason as there is to oppose this pointless debt committee, I think this story was pretty thoroughly debunked yesterday. But here we go again.

1. No the debt committee, or "super congress" if you prefer, can't unilaterally approve treaties, they still require a 2/3 majority per the constitution.

2. No the debt committee can't impose gun control, and, (there is some debate on this point), probably can't even introduce anything that is not budget related (Cantor says they can't even propose tax increase only spending cuts).

3.Even under a worst case scenario, that the committee did insert gun control into some debt bill, it would still require a majority vote in the house and senate.

4. No the Republican majority in the house are not going to throw away their political careers by voting for gun control.

5. No the Republicans won't be "held hostage" by the threat of debt triggers and forced to support gun control. The triggers don't go into effect until 2013 even if activated, giving republicans plenty of time to reverse the defense spending cuts in other must pass legislation. Cantor has already said the Republicans in the house would allow the triggers before voting for a tax increase if the debt committee included one. The triggers are essentially toothless political theater.

6. And finally, No the "super congress" is not an all powerful entity that is going to dominate congress from now on, for one thing it's mandate expires at the end of every congress and has to be renewed by the next on, because no future congress can be bound by the actions of a current one. For another, it only has a much power as the House and Senate decide it has, in fact, constitutionally the House and Senate leaders could simply ignore it with impunity, because the only recourse would be to get the courts involved and they aren't going to touch an internal congressional dispute with a ten foot pole.

15 posted on 08/02/2011 10:37:49 AM PDT by apillar
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So THIS was the sub-rosa activity covered by flappage over the debt ceiling. In addition to being able to raise taxes (from each according to his “gifts” to each according to his “needs”), a bump up in federal power, cutting out those pesky dissenting, constitutionally aligned congresscritters.

Should be sporty!


16 posted on 08/02/2011 10:38:59 AM PDT by petro45acp (NO good endeavour survives an excess of "adult supervision" (hence the American experiment))
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>> I think this story was pretty thoroughly debunked yesterday <<

Oh, c’mon. Don’t be a spoil sport. Conspiracy theories are a lot of FUN!


17 posted on 08/02/2011 10:42:55 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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Our own Politburo/Central Committee...


18 posted on 08/02/2011 10:45:40 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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Political leaders be advised, the people are passed the pissed off stage.


19 posted on 08/02/2011 10:47:55 AM PDT by drypowder
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ping


20 posted on 08/02/2011 10:48:23 AM PDT by Wuli
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