House panel approves broadened ISP snooping bill

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20084939-281/house-panel-approves-broadened-isp-snooping-bill/ ^

[Minus_The_Bear]

Internet providers would be forced to keep logs of their customers' activities for one year--in case police want to review them in the future--under legislation that a U.S. House of Representatives committee approved today.

The 19 to 10 vote represents a victory for conservative Republicans, who made data retention their first major technology initiative after last fall's elections, and the Justice Department officials who have quietly lobbied for the sweeping new requirements, a development first reported by CNET.

A last-minute rewrite of the bill expands the information that commercial Internet providers are required to store to include customers' names, addresses, phone numbers, credit card numbers, bank account numbers, and temporarily-assigned IP addresses, some committee members suggested. By a 7-16 vote, the panel rejected an amendment that would have clarified that only IP addresses must be stored.

It represents "a data bank of every digital act by every American" that would "let us find out where every single American visited Web sites," said Rep. Zoe Lofgren of California, who led Democratic opposition to the bill.

[e_castillo]

Lamar Smith teamed up with Wasserman Shultz. Lamar Smith is an idiot.

[EGPWS]

Internet providers would be forced to keep logs of their customers' activities for one year--in case police want to review them in the future--under legislation that a U.S. House of Representatives committee approved today.

Good afternoon Mr. EGPWS, we are from the government and we are here to help you.

[EGPWS]

Lamar Smith teamed up with Wasserman Shultz.

Just great, now I might go to jail just because Shultz is ugly.

[americanophile]

[maine-iac7]

It isn't legal for gov’t to be allowed to read our mail - why should this be legal?

insanity. A ‘regime’ = like the one we have currently in the WH, if they get the control they want - would use this to inter ‘enemies of the state’ as THEY perceive them, according to their agenda.

Hitler is rolling in his grave with jealousy over HIS not having such tools.

[Minus_The_Bear]

Pretty much.

This is bad for two reasons:

1. More regulation on ISPs. How do you think they are going to handle storing the data on every customer? That will cost a lot of money. Will they eat that cost? Hardly! They will pass it on and the internet will get even more expensive.

2. Eventually something like this will be used to pressure or discriminate against conservatives or Christians. This is how the internet is in authoritarian countries like China.

They are using safety as a cover because "everyone wants safety" and if anyone speaks out they look like a horrible person.

[unixfox]

They are using safety as a cover because "everyone wants safety" and if anyone speaks out they look like a horrible person.

Eff them! I call them traitors! Call me a horrible person.

[FourPeas]

This is precisely the reason to use an anonymizer like Tor, software that helps to protect your on-line privacy on-line from surveillance and traffic analysis:

[e_castillo]

Yep you’ve stepped in it now. Go turn yourself in.

[VanDeKoik]

And I’m sure the “it’s for the children” caucus will be celebrating.

This sure as heck wont survive the courts.

[EGPWS]

They will pass it on and the internet will get even more expensive.

Then we will need a government department to monitor and make sure that everyone is paying their taxes and all are paying a fair share and that it is enough to skim from for political use.

That department will be VERY expensive but will have the BEST workers available to keep it going.

[e_castillo]

Anybody have the vote breakdown? I know it was 19-10 in favor.

[herewego]

The 19 to 10 vote represents a victory for conservative Republicans,
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This is NOT a conservative victory, but a progressive one.

[DBeers]

Big brother at work here. Collecting data on everyone to possibly investigate a few after due process is sheer lunacy and a sign of big invasive government that always well intentioned creates that which is unnecessary for good ends that inevitably becomes that which becomes used to pursue evil means.

Just as one can not be half pregnant, due process can not be half respected and then expected to be enforced properly. Government mandated collecting of information is a violation of privacy -period!

[cva66snipe]

Will someone please explain to me again the difference between the two parties? DEMs are dancing in the aisles. Obama and his justice department just given yet more powers to invade the innocents privacy. Thank you GOP. May your time as a political party end soon. And certainly lets not forget the Smirking Chimp's AG Gonzales and the others who started us on this keeping a database on all citizens activities idea.

What ever happened to " GET A WARRANT? Oh yea the GOP loyalist said well gee it's OK our guys are in power wink, wink, and the sheeple bleated OK. FOOLS!!! It's a sad day when the DEMs are right on an issue like this and the GOP is very wrong. Mind you the DEMs protest but they too will use this against you until you are proven innocent beyond a reasonable doubt.

We need a new political party rooted in abiding within the Constitution now to replace the two parties who only use it for their bathroom wipe paper in the congressional office buildings.

[NewHampshireDuo]

GOP led internet overreach ping.

[rcrngroup]

This is precisely the reason to use an anonymizer like Tor, software that helps to protect your on-line privacy on-line from surveillance and traffic analysis:

TOR -- https://www.torproject.org/

Ping for later use

[rcrngroup]

I wonder who the dumb ass RINO Repukes were that voted for yet another Big Brother invasive tool. Is there something in the Washington DC water that causes Repubs to convert over the socialist-marxist-fascist big gubmint, big brother, big spending, big taxation, almost as soon as they get elected to a federal (or even a state) legislative position. Just once, could we have a bona fide bloc of pro-American, pro-liberty, pro-freedom legislators?

[Chickensoup]

This is an enormously important infringement on freedom masquerading as a Save the Children moment.