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The offender (Norway gunman) let out the video and manifesto on the Web
tv2.no ^ | July 23, 2011

Posted on 07/23/2011 2:37:49 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Maelstrom

“The terrorist assault he conducted may very well have been the only possible outlet for this man.”

He is just a terrorist, just as evil and deranged as the terrorists that attacked on 9/11.


121 posted on 07/23/2011 8:16:44 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

I can’t believe it. I agree with trumandogz.


122 posted on 07/23/2011 8:21:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe it feels good to call this guy an “insane butcher” and lame insults, but if you make the effort to read his manifesto, or parts of it, as some of us have, he appears to be highly intelligent and rational, and he explains himself perfectly well. Who knows, perhaps anabolic steroids played a part in feeding his rage, but the man appears convinced, as many of us here, and people like Oriana Fallaci, by the way, that Western Civ is committing suicide. And he has a plan. Too bad it isn’t (wasn’t) as smart as Vladimir Ilyich Lenin’s plan.


123 posted on 07/23/2011 8:23:13 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

The anarchists cookbook is by no means reliable, certainly not for an explosive of the size used in Oslo.


124 posted on 07/23/2011 8:25:43 PM PDT by robertwalker62
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To: Revolting cat!

The killer has been quoted as having said that his actions were “horrible (or atrocious), but necessary”.

That’s where the insanity exists, or the total lack of any ability to see that the action he planned and carried out would do great damage to the cause he was so passionate about. Any notion on his part that his murderous acts could do anything but damage efforts to effectively address the suicidal tendencies of Western Civilization is, well, insane or irrational, or just plain stupid.

That’s where he goes off the deep end.

And his attorney is saying that he is talking a lot, and will have much to say at a hearing on Monday.


125 posted on 07/23/2011 8:35:10 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

I really don’t give a frog’s fat ass what this guy’s political views are, he needs to be put down like a rabid dog.


126 posted on 07/23/2011 8:36:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Will88

He’s already said everything in his manifesto. Now it’s feeding the 15 second attention span masses, and the MSM addicts, who claim here and elsewhere to despise MSM. Saying “stupid”, “insane” adds nothing to the understanding of the man’s motives and thinking. And, by the way, he anticipates the “insane” insult in the manifesto and responds to it.


127 posted on 07/23/2011 8:39:39 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: dfwgator
I really don’t give a frog’s fat ass what this guy’s political views are, he needs to be put down like a rabid dog.

Well, that won't happen in Norway, and his attorney is saying that he's had a lot to say and will say more. He'll probably prove to be a great gift the to left that tries to discredit any attempt to address the issues of immigration, multiculturalism and the self-destruction of all to many Western nations.

128 posted on 07/23/2011 8:41:58 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
If someone were to walk up and terminate this piece of human excrement, would they too get a decade or two? Might be worth it to wake the freaking Vikings up! But then, it probably would wake up a Norwegian.
129 posted on 07/23/2011 8:45:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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Probably would NOT wake up a Norwegian.
130 posted on 07/23/2011 8:47:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Revolting cat!
He’s already said everything in his manifesto.

Not according to his attorney who says he's been very talkative today, including the 'explanation' that his actions were: "horrible, but necessary". And the attorney says the killer will have more to say at a hearing on Monday.

Yes, the killer definitely goes off the deep end with any notion that his actions could result in anything but harm to his cause.

Maybe will explain why his actions were "necessary". It's not insane to think he can show that his actions were "necessary"?

131 posted on 07/23/2011 8:48:58 PM PDT by Will88
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To: MHGinTN

It been posted here several times that the maximum sentence in Norway is 21 years. Have no knowledge of Norwegian law myself, but that’s been posted by people who say they know.


132 posted on 07/23/2011 8:51:34 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
Well then, are there no real parents among the eighty some slaughtered who will do humanity a favor and terminate this piece of human excrement? ... I know, they were sent to that island from liberal progressive socialist households, so the answer is immediately, no. America is filling up with just such pondscum as we drivel out our postings.
133 posted on 07/23/2011 8:55:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
America is filling up with just such pondscum as we drivel out our postings.

And filling up with people who'll be the tools of the leftist pond scum that's already been here for years.

134 posted on 07/23/2011 9:04:10 PM PDT by Will88
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To: little jeremiah

You haven’t looked yet.

He did not butcher innocents.

He was never going to “martyr himself”.

He did not “act exactly like the enemy of Western Civilization”.


135 posted on 07/23/2011 9:30:36 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Earthdweller

You don’t see it because it isn’t there.

He was not an insane butcher.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89a_1311444384&comments=1

Watch it.


136 posted on 07/23/2011 9:32:15 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: little jeremiah

No, he’s still wrong...as usual.

You need to look deeper into this than you have so far.


137 posted on 07/23/2011 9:33:46 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Will88

Right, the maximum sentence for ordinary criminals in Norway is 21.

I maintain that they will, just the same, kill Anders Behring Breivik.

Mark it down. If they don’t kill him as part of his sentence, they will find someone to kill him in prison.


138 posted on 07/23/2011 9:37:08 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Maelstrom

Then why did he say he was going to martyr himself? The young people he murdered had not yet committed crimes or had any influence. I realize they were punk leftists but killing unarmed non-combatants is right up Jihad Alley, not illustrative of what is good about western civilization.

I’m not saying he was a jihadi, just that his statements and actions are not rational because they are not the acts of someone who holds or acts upon the values of western civilization. He acted as an enemy of western civilization because now the government not just of Norway but other EU countries and ours, will find even more justification to be nice to Muslims and repressive to those concerned about Muslim jihad.

So the result of his horrible actions will result in more protection and favoritism towards Muslims and leftists, and more repression of the values he supposedly holds dear. Exactly opposite of his supposed ideals and intentions.


139 posted on 07/23/2011 9:47:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Maelstrom

How much deeper? Explain to me how I’m wrong, and it sounds as though you are supporting his actions, which I am sure you are not; but it sounds as though you are. Maybe explain your position better, and what you think his is.

(I am going off soon so if you reply I may be checking tomorrow.)


140 posted on 07/23/2011 9:50:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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