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The offender (Norway gunman) let out the video and manifesto on the Web
tv2.no ^ | July 23, 2011

Posted on 07/23/2011 2:37:49 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

TV 2 know that the 32-year-old terror accused Oslo man has confessed to having published the material on the web. There are sources in the police confirming this to the TV 2

Anders Behring Breivik (32) Prior to the attacks, published a long manifesto and a video on the Internet, where he describes the attacks he was about to perform.

The video and document

"Marxist Hunter"

It is about more than twelve minutes long video, which Behring Brevik compare themselves with Knights, and encourage a year-long war against Marxism and Islamism.

He has also published a manuscript of 1,500 pages which he explains very extreme political views. In addition, he describes in detail how an attack to be carried out. Everything from the use of the car bomb of the type of equipment to be used in an attack.

On an image that has not previously been known pose the seemingly Anders Behring Breivik in a diving suit with what looks like an automatic rifle. On his shoulder he has a badge that says "Marxist Hunter."

In the document, which is over 1500 pages the author elaborates on events throughout history and will repeatedly return to the Knights Templar, or Knights Templar as they say in English.

Today, the Knights Templar, an order within the Masonic movement, which also Anders Behring Breivik was a member of. He will now be excluded from the Masonic Order.

(Excerpt) Read more at translate.google.com ...


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To: Maelstrom

Apologies to my Catholic reasonable and loving friends but I smell Catholic crazy and mislead all over this video. It might just be the Norwegian culture or just the Euro culture...non American Catholic nut case. That is about all I have to say about it at this time.


141 posted on 07/23/2011 10:08:15 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Strategerist; WesternCulture
He’s sane; he’s just another guy that takes more or less reasonable political views to a twisted and violent end

Thanks for posting excerpts of his manifesto. My initial thoughts yesterday were that I couldn't identify exact motive(s) for his actions - IOW, what exactly triggered them. Now, it has become clearer.

It depends on one's definition of "insane" -- He obviously isn't mentally retarded or handicapped. In fact, he comes across as quite intelligent, logical, in control & methodical. Don't know if it was an "official diagnosis", but, previously, he was said to be a Narcissistic Psychopath - additionally, I'd say he also suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). That is a clinical, psychological disorder. Both his actions & his writings, IMO, demonstrate related symptoms, depending on severity of symptoms.

Also, as far as I know he didn't resist arrest, didn't turn the gun on himself, and is now freely, I read, 'cooperating' with the police. His original one liner quote "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100000 who have only interests." was very revealing in itself, and in my view, consistent with NPD tendencies.

More than a few individuals who are diagnosed with the mentioned personality disorder also have drug, alcohol, and family/relationship issues, which complicate matters. If he was also on Anabolic Steroids (AS), as you earlier suggested in this thread, and depending on dosage, then that would've had further psychological effects & affected his behavior as well, making him more aggressive - AS can lead to euphoria, violence & criminal behavior.

Moreover, his religious & political beliefs obviously contributed to his actions. There are many who have strong anti-Moslem, anti-Marxist, anti-multiculturalism views. Though, many of them would not or could not do what this guy did, especially in the manner that it was done - that's quite a leap.

Anyway, no matter which way one looks at it, the outcome is the same: A huge tragedy.

142 posted on 07/23/2011 10:20:07 PM PDT by odds
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To: Maelstrom; little jeremiah

Once you begin to consider a terrorist’s motives, you become a Terrorist Sympathizer.

Once you begin to sympathize with a terrorist, you become an Advocate of Terrorism.


143 posted on 07/24/2011 3:58:13 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Strategerist
His rationale is that the leftists in Europe have killed up to 2 million people through their multiculturalism since 1950. He derives that number based upon how the leftist philosophy has abandoned , for example, the Serbians and places all Serbian deaths on the hands of the leftists. In addition all islamic violence he tallies in too. Also included is how the left has abandoned natural allies around the world and let them lose wars, such as in Sudan.

He argues that the only way to stop the multiculturalists is to hit them hard, over and over again. He feels no shame because they feel no shame for the outcome of their philosphy to Europe. It seems he went for this camp to drive home that the multiculturalists should not be allowed to enact these policies and themselves suffer no consequences. I base the above summary on skimming some of the document that he wrote.

144 posted on 07/24/2011 4:42:14 AM PDT by BRL
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To: WesternCulture

We’ve had our differences in the past, but I have to say I agree 100% with every word you wrote in that post. I also pray strength rises from this tragedy.


145 posted on 07/24/2011 4:50:07 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: trumandogz
Once you begin to consider a terrorist’s motives, you become a Terrorist Sympathizer.

Sorry, I disagree. Once you empathize with a terrorist's motives, or condone his/her actions you become a Terrorist Sympathizer.

Identifying & considering motives of criminals, suspects & murderers have been a long established core practice for law enforcement agencies - the Police force, and those who work with them, such as a psychologists, included.

146 posted on 07/24/2011 4:59:33 AM PDT by odds
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To: jh4freedom
(1)Angela Merkel of the Christian Democratic Union in Germany who defeated her Social Democrat opponent, Gerhard Schroeder and won reelection; (2)Nicholas Sarkozy of the Union for a Popular Movement in France who defeated the Socialist Party candidate, Segoline Royal; and (3) David Cameron of the Conservative Party who defeated Gordon Brown of the Labour Party.

I don't care what their party names are - the first 2 are Marxists and Cameron is leading a minority that can't do anything without Marxists' approval.

Just a few days ago, the fellow Marxists agreed to bailout Greece again so they could keep their Marxist/socialist/communist utopia alive.

There is no push for freedom, individual liberty or even capitalism from any elected front in Europe.

147 posted on 07/24/2011 5:33:07 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: radiohead

so you are saying that norweigans aren’t married to an political parties the way we are? I don’t understand so much about this horrible situation. Thanks for some insight.

Have you seen the post about the fact that he copied (word for word sometimes) the unibomber manifesto? It seems to me that this was slapped together quickly (since he needed to copy) rather than an insight into his thinking. It really sounds cut and pasted. Isn’t that rather unusual?


148 posted on 07/24/2011 7:09:45 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Strategerist
It’s extraordinarily well organized and logical. I’ convinced there’s no way this guy is clinically insane.

Apparently Unabomber earned his PhD with some very notable works in mathematics.
149 posted on 07/24/2011 8:30:19 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: DEADROCK

I don’t care what their party names are - the first 2 are Marxists and Cameron is leading a minority that can’t do anything without Marxists’ approval.

Just a few days ago, the fellow Marxists agreed to bailout Greece again so they could keep their Marxist/socialist/communist utopia alive.

There is no push for freedom, individual liberty or even capitalism from any elected front in Europe.

Cameron leads a minority? You can’t be Prime Minister unless your party is in the majority or in a coalition. In the 2010 elections the Conservatives won 100 seats and lost 3; Labour
gained 3 and lost 94 and the Liberal-Democrats gained 8 seats and lost 13.

Merkel and Sarkozy would be surprised to learn that they are “Marxists.” Unless you are talking about the Marx Brothers!


150 posted on 07/24/2011 9:05:47 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"Maybe but this is what happens when multiculturalism is allowed to run rampant"

The only surprise is that there isn't more push back from 'whitey'. ...just sayin....

151 posted on 07/24/2011 9:12:25 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: jh4freedom
You can’t be Prime Minister unless your party is in the majority or in a coalition.

Stephen Harper, our PM, was the minority PM for over 3 years. He just won a majority recently.

We use the British Parliamentary system. Cameron didn't win a majority and had to form a coalition with Marxists. It doesn't matter if he joined a coalition, he still is the minority PM. The coalition would break if the Marxists didn't get there way.

If you think a collective European state run by bureaucrats is a good idea, then you wouldn't consider anyone a Marxist.

152 posted on 07/24/2011 9:57:34 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: DEADROCK

Stephen Harper, our PM, was the minority PM for over 3 years. He just won a majority recently.

We use the British Parliamentary system. Cameron didn’t win a majority and had to form a coalition with Marxists. It doesn’t matter if he joined a coalition, he still is the minority PM. The coalition would break if the Marxists didn’t get there way.

If you think a collective European state run by bureaucrats is a good idea, then you wouldn’t consider anyone a Marxist.

Is Stephen Harper a “Marxist?”


153 posted on 07/24/2011 10:52:31 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: trumandogz

Amazing


154 posted on 07/24/2011 1:24:28 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: trumandogz

I guess my agreement with you farther up was just one time thing. Cos I don’t agree with your premise that considering a terrorist’s motives means being an advocate of terrorism. In fact I strongly disagree.


155 posted on 07/24/2011 1:37:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I’m still trying to understand what happened.


156 posted on 07/24/2011 1:43:29 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Everything coming out of Norway seems like there will not be any real investigation into his motives.

Good!

Deny him and his cause publicity.

He is guilty of mass murder. Hope he gets the maximum penalty Norwegian law allows.

157 posted on 07/24/2011 1:57:15 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Churchillspirit

21 years.


158 posted on 07/24/2011 2:22:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Churchillspirit

You know...I think I understand this thing now.

He wasn’t insane.

Maybe he had some anger issues from steroids.

His primary impetus, and this is what is being missed, was war.

He is not a fascist, but he points out how the cry “fascist” is made against any dissent with, what we call in America “liberalism”.

He is not a monster, but he points out how the cry “monster” is made against any dissent with, what we call in America “liberalism”.

He is not a racist, but he points out how the cry “racist” is made against any dissent with, what we call in America “liberalism”.

He is not a bigot, but he points out how the cry “bigot” is made against any dissent with, what we call in America “liberalism”.

He is not insane, but he points out how the cry “insanity” is made against any dissent with, what we call in America “liberalism”.

He engaged in warfare. Yes, he was alone, but the psychology, the planning, the act itself was directed against what he perceived to be a bastion of anti-Western Civilization and a “camp” which, if examined closely, turns out to be nothing more than an indoctrination camp that brainwashes children against Western Civilization’s ideals.

This was a one-man war.

I see no other way to interpret it. He took it upon himself to engage in warfare against the Marxist “suicidal genocide” which he considered to be the primary enemy of his own nation: Norway.


I am open to other interpretations of what happened and (more importantly) why it happened.

People who want to make one of the above accusations, save it for yourself.


159 posted on 07/24/2011 2:44:26 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: little jeremiah

They will kill him.

I think they will understand what he did as I do, try him as a war criminal, and then execute him.


160 posted on 07/24/2011 2:45:27 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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