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1 posted on 06/27/2011 1:43:21 AM PDT by markomalley
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This will never be a “wedge issue” on a national level, as it has failed anywhere it awas put on a ballot (including California of all places); politicians realize it is a losing proposition with voters, and will do their utmost to avoid it. NY Republicans are to the left of Obama on this issue, and have only further consigned their state to irrelevance with this nonsense.

To his credit, Governor Christie in NJ has already said he wouldn’t legalize this.


2 posted on 06/27/2011 1:54:20 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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This is not a win...It's disgusting.

I hate NY!!

6 posted on 06/27/2011 2:37:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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God will NOT be MOCKED!!!! Woe be to these immoral states.


7 posted on 06/27/2011 3:39:59 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: markomalley

Ken Mehlman, former RNC chair, is the reason this bill passed.


8 posted on 06/27/2011 4:46:25 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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If New York can dodoes it, it's OK a sign from God for every other place to NOT do it."


9 posted on 06/27/2011 4:56:43 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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They think legally allowing them to marry will truly make them happy. They will be found wanting.


10 posted on 06/27/2011 4:59:05 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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the headline about battle lines makes NO Sense.

The only battle lines that are new is for the 4 incumbent GOPers who voted Yes. They need opponents to primary them and run on the Conservative Party line.

The 4 RINOS should seek the DEM nomination when they run for re-election. Dump ‘em.


11 posted on 06/27/2011 5:26:42 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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New York’s power is diminishing. It’s not the powerhouse it used to be. It’s losing four seats in the House and nobody reads there papers anymore. Only in their minds is this a big deal for the rest of the country.


12 posted on 06/27/2011 5:55:19 AM PDT by cotton1706
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One wonders how many of this article’s authors are themselves homosexual.


13 posted on 06/27/2011 6:02:15 AM PDT by Mobties (Reduce the government footprint! Let the markets work!)
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If anything, this will be a powerful impetus for a federal marriage amendment.


14 posted on 06/27/2011 6:25:25 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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And they say America is in decline. :)


30 posted on 06/27/2011 11:21:08 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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Mario Cuomo Patched Things Up With Ed Koch For Andrew

The NY Times has a long feature on the relationship between former NY governor Mario Cuomo and presumptive 2010 gubernatorial candidate Andrew Cuomo that includes quotes like "He’s thick skulled; he won’t listen to me. Tell him what to do" (supposedly what Mario told a consultant about Andrew) and "There was this sense of rivalry — Andrew seemed to feel that his dad talked a good game but that he, Andrew, got things done" (someone who worked under Andrew Cuomo at HUD). But what's interesting is how the 1977 mayoral campaign comes into play.

Back in 1977, Mario Cuomo was battling Ed Koch for the NYC mayorship, and there were nasty campaign posters saying "Vote For Cuomo, Not The Homo." When Andrew Cuomo was running for attorney general in 2006 (after his failed 2002 gubernatorial run and divorce from Kerry Kennedy), the NY Times reports, "Mario approached George Arzt, a former press secretary to Mr. Koch, at the Regency Hotel in New York and told him, “‘I’d like to patch things up with Ed,’ ” Mr. Arzt recalled. “I asked him what he had in mind. And he said, ‘Could Ed endorse Andrew?’" Which Koch did do.

Koch, for his part, told Esquire, "The signs said, VOTE FOR CUOMO, NOT THE HOMO. Andrew says he didn't do it, and I believe him. Mario says he thinks he now knows who did it. I was very angry at the time. Primary races always end in anger. They're different than the general election: They're like a civil war — it's brother against brother. But I've forgiven them. I'm eighty-five now, and grudges take your energy away. I've forgiven them all."

Legalize Gay Marriage - Vote Homo Not Cuomo <<--- UTube Ad

The already circus-like race for New York governor just went from one ring to three.

Independent Kristin Davis, the former New York madam, is now calling out Democrat Andrew Cuomo for not taking a stronger stance for gay rights.

“It’s outrageous that New York has not legalized same-sex marriage,” Davis says in a new ad. “Andrew Cuomo says he supports it, but when the marriage equality bill was before the Senate, he was asked to call three undecided Democratic senators and declined. A vote for me sends a strong message to Cuomo: we demand gay marriage now.”

She ends the ad with a catchy phrase: “Vote homo, not Cuomo”:

According to CBS News, the line is a play off a campaign slogan used by some supporters of Andrew’s father Mario in the 1977 New York mayoral election against Ed Koch: “Vote for Cuomo, not the homo.” The reference was meant to advance rumors about Koch’s sexuality.

from a left wing political site the evening of the big celebration:

Andrew Cuomo 2016 speculation heating up Politico ^ | 06/26/11

With his successful push to pass a gay marriage law, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo overnight became a national contender, putting down a major marker among the liberal party base that dominates the primaries.

“Most politicians, including most Democrats, have been afraid of this issue. Andrew is the first national figure ever to embrace it so enthusiastically,” said Richard Socarides, the president of Equality Matters and a former Clinton White House adviser. “Clearly, this establishes him as the most important progressive leader of our party, setting him up very well for 2016.”

Come 2016, “Cuomo is the only one who will be able to say ‘I delivered for you’ before everyone else realized it was politically popular, and that will be an invaluable asset,” Socarides said, adding, “it also has the benefit of being true.”

Cuomo supporters already have fanned the flames privately of his prospects on the national stage: Rumors of his White House ambitions started circulating in New York even before he was elected last year by one of the largest margins in state history — some of them date to the days when he was managing his father’s own multiple flirtations with a national run. ..........

Of the early potential Democratic contenders, Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley says he supports gay marriage but stopped short of making a major push for the legislation earlier in the year, while Virginia Sen. Mark Warner is opposed. Hillary Clinton, if she runs, would still have her commitment to civil unions but not gay marriage from the 2008 race hanging over her — and at least until the end of next year, when she’s said she’ll be done at the State Department, she won’t be able to make any new comments on the issue.

“It gives him an authenticity and a strength with progressives that will provide a real base — not just gays, but progressives in general. Other people can say they’re for same sex marriage, he got it done,” said Democratic political consultant Bob Shrum. “I think it will always now be a hallmark of his political persona.”

Cuomo’s push on gay marriage wasn’t in a vacuum — it came at the end of a tough legislative session when New York progressives were forced to swallow major budget cuts, tough on unions rhetoric and a refusal to even consider renewing the state’s expired millionaire’s tax.

That’s part of the persona he’s crafting too, as Cuomo sets himself up as a governor who’s pushed the party to the left on social issues and toward the center-right on economic issues. It’s a message with both primary and general election appeal, though being so far out-front on gay marriage could be a problem in a November national election.

“He’s created a profile that I think would make him a very effective candidate,” Shrum said. “He’s right on the social issues, and he will be even more right by 2016 than he is now in terms of Democratic primary voters, and in terms of the country, frankly. He’s created a profile of economic stewardship in a very difficult period that is very strong, he’s managed to deal with unions without getting into the kind of destructive confrontations that people like Scott Walker have.”

.......

Joe Trippi, the former Howard Dean and John Edwards adviser, said it’s not too early to start the 2016 clock — and, pointing to Michael Dukakis in 1988, noted there’s a precedent for an ethnic Northeast governor appealing to Democrats far away from home.

“I understand 2016’s a long way off, and who knows where things will be then, but certainly, he has to be somebody that the party looks to for leadership once you get past Obama’s reelection,” Trippi said. “He’s putting his stamp on what kind of party he thinks the Democrats should be.”

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31 posted on 06/27/2011 12:45:23 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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the goventrment’s ONLY rokle, whicvh it arbitrarily took upon itself btw, in marriage, whether it be federal or state govenrment, is to allow peopel to be married to BEAR AND RAISE future taxpayers which will support the government. The govenrment does NOT have the right to dictate laws that coddle to people’s ‘feelings’- it is their role to PROTECT people, NOT to coddle people’s delicate feelings. State govenrment is set up to LISTEN to the WILL OF THE PEOPLE of the state, and put things to a citizen vote- NOT to enact laws, other than actual protection laws, that coddle some minority group’s FEEL:INGS about an issue.

The role of marriage is a CHURCH institution, NOT a government ione- the governmenbt took it upon themselves to take over htis institution- they wrestled the Holy priviledge of marriage from the church, and are slowly but surely taking it fully away from the church- you watch, in no time, the govenrtment will make it illegal for a church to refuse to violate God’s law of marraige by refusing to marry two men or women.

Yes God allowed this vote to go hte way it did, but ask yourselves WHY God allowed it? Folks- God IS removing His blessings upon this country as we becvomem ore andm ore immoral, and He is handing this nation of sinners over to their own sin, which is a VERY fearful thing- but htose sliding down into immorality are too dense to realize just how seriously God takes sin- they are too dense to learn from history- too dense and too stubbornly welded to their sin to turn from their sin and turn to the OPNLY one hwo save them, and indeed the rest of htis country-

Sin IS winning, and we WILL reap what we have sown UNLESS we have a strong voice come from out of the wilderness with a thundering voice to bring about the old revivals of times past- but I don’;t see that happening any time soon though unfortunately


38 posted on 06/27/2011 9:29:08 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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