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Cook taxpayers owe $108 billion, county Treasurer Pappas says: Greg Hinz [ Chicago, Ill County ]
chicago business.com ^ | June 21 2011 | Ann W.

Posted on 06/21/2011 1:56:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone

The average Chicago household now owes a staggering $63,525 to cover local government debt, according to Cook County Treasurer Maria Pappas.

Suburbanites are deeply in the red, too, with the average household owing $32,901, according to the treasurer.

Among the biggest reasons: $25 billion in unfunded pension liability.

In comments after an appearance Tuesday before the Civic Federation, a watchdog group that has released somewhat similar numbers in recent years, Ms. Pappas said she was "stunned" to learn that county taxpayers on the whole owe more than $108 billion toward local debt.

(The total may be even worse. Click here for an update.)

The figures were derived from a recently passed debt disclosure law. Ms. Pappas said the numbers have never before been compiled in this fashion.

"This goes well beyond big cities," she said. "These fiscal problems permeate townships, villages, school districts, park districts, fire protection districts and more, and the taxpayers are on the hook."
 
Overall, she said, municipalities have $61 billion in debt. And educational districts, $20 billion. Cook County owes $18 billion, and various sanitary districts collectively owe $4.4 billion.

In some ways the problem is actually worse than it appears. Ms. Pappas' report does not include totals from 55 of the county's 553 local units of government, which failed to report their debt figures to her.

On pensions, only one-quarter of the Cook County government units involved have at least 80% of the assets on hand needed to pay expected retirement plans for public employees, she said. Most financial watchdogs say 80% or even 90% is appropriate.

State lawmakers last year adopted changes that will reduce pension liabilities over time, but only for new employees. A bill that would reduce benefits or increase payments for current workers failed to pass in the spring legislative session but may come up this fall.

Check out the report here.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: pensions; seiu; unions

1 posted on 06/21/2011 1:56:07 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone
Among the biggest reasons: $25 billion in unfunded pension liability.

Message to union-thug pensionees: "Unfunded" means "too bad, so sad"

Just because you dipped your hand in the taxpayer's pocket doesn't mean you are owed anything.

2 posted on 06/21/2011 2:00:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: NoLibZone
With respect to cities- The First 10 City Pensions That Will Run Out Of Money :

#10 Fort Worth...Unfunded liability: $2 billion Unfunded liability per household: $7,212 Solvency horizon: 2023

#9 Detroit...Unfunded liability: $6.4 billion Unfunded liability per household: $18,643 Solvency horizon: 2023

#8 Baltimore...Unfunded liability: $3.7 billion Unfunded liability per household: $15,420 Solvency horizon: 2022

#7 New York City...Unfunded liability: $122.2 billion Unfunded liability per household: $38,886 Solvency horizon: 2021

#6 Jacksonville...Unfunded liability: $4 billion Unfunded liability per household: $12,994 Solvency horizon: 2020

#5 St. Paul...Unfunded liability: $1.4 billion Unfunded liability per household: $13,686 Solvency horizon: 2020

#4 Cincinnati...Unfunded liability: $2 billion Unfunded liability per household: $15,681 Solvency horizon: 2020

#3 Boston...Unfunded liability: $7.5 billion Unfunded liability per household: $30,901 Solvency horizon: 2019

#2 Chicago...Unfunded liability: $44.8 billion Unfunded liability per household: $41,966 Solvency horizon: 2019

#1 Philadelphia..Unfunded liability: $9 billion Unfunded liability per household: $16,690 Solvency horizon: 2015

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2647985/posts

3 posted on 06/21/2011 2:01:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama for among other things , violating the War Powers Act.)
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To: NoLibZone

16 U.S. Cities That Could Face Bankruptcy in 2011

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2646712/posts

San Diego, Ca.

New York, NY

San Jose, Ca.

Cincinnati, Oh.

Honolulu, Hi.

San Francisco, Ca.

Los Angeles, Ca.

Washington, D.C.

Newark, NJ

Detroit, Mi

Reading, Pa

Joliet, Il

Camden, NJ

Hamtramck, Mi

Central Falls, RI

Paterson, N.J.

BONUS: Chicago, Il

nice job, ‘rats !


4 posted on 06/21/2011 2:04:11 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: NoLibZone
Hmmm...Chicago is #1 on that list for debt per household.

Chicago will become the Detroit of the next decade thanks to Obama and his cronies.

5 posted on 06/21/2011 2:06:38 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: NoLibZone

Time to get Mrs. O’ Leary’s cow out and burn it down again and then start over.


6 posted on 06/21/2011 2:08:21 PM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Mayor Rahm will fix it.

Mayor Rahm will also stop the marauding youth gangs who threaten to make it a very long hot summer in Chicago. I know people in Chicago who are now afraid to go to the beach. The beach was closed on Memorial Day, officially due to heat. The unspoken reason was due to gang violence there. I had to laugh that during a heat wave, that a cool beach by a cool lake was closed due to the heat. I wonder how many people believe that explanation from Rahm.


7 posted on 06/21/2011 2:09:45 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: NoLibZone

But if you move somewhere else, you are no longer liable for this debt!


8 posted on 06/21/2011 2:10:30 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Siena Dreaming

If local governments defaulted on payments for everyone under 40 and started fresh, people would still have enough to live off of, and theywouof cance a very large chunk of debt.

Problem is’ the government for the sake of fairness would take every 401k for people under 40 working in the private sector.


9 posted on 06/21/2011 2:12:02 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin, the only candidate to be vetted by the NY Times, the Washington Post and NBC.)
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To: NoLibZone

It’s worth clicking the link to read some of the comments.


10 posted on 06/21/2011 2:12:51 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: NoLibZone

Taxes! We don’t pay no stinkin’ taxes! It’s the Chicago way.


11 posted on 06/21/2011 2:29:54 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, Kill the EPA!!!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

These Blue States (I live in Tax-Mexifornia) love to create giant government to tax, regulate and overpay thousands of workers, for life, on the backs of business.

If these cities begin going BK, there will be chaos.


12 posted on 06/21/2011 2:34:59 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Are any of those cities in states that have Right-to-Work laws?


13 posted on 06/21/2011 2:36:32 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: wac3rd
If these cities begin going BK, there will be chaos.

better have an exit plan and have it soon. I fear for my friend in CA.

14 posted on 06/21/2011 3:02:40 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: NoLibZone

Bail out coming@


15 posted on 06/21/2011 3:09:34 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: NoLibZone
county taxpayers on the whole owe more than $108 billion toward local debt.
'Bout time for another gig ...

16 posted on 06/21/2011 3:13:25 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: wac3rd

Birmingham will be the first of the big cities to go BK. Some smaller ones have already tanked. A small town in Arkansas defaulted and couldn’t pay the pensions. A judge ordered the city to pay anyway. He didn’t tell them where to get the money.


17 posted on 06/21/2011 3:14:06 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

You mean, me?

I live in the former paradise known as CA.


18 posted on 06/21/2011 3:24:08 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: wac3rd

nope.a friend I have who still lives there in Fullerton.

but you can be my FRiend, too.


19 posted on 06/21/2011 3:29:23 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: proxy_user

Yep, and look what this debt does to the saleability of homes in Cook County and the difficulty of finding suckers to move there.


20 posted on 06/21/2011 3:38:32 PM PDT by libstripper
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