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A Million Electric Vehicles - The president wants them by 2015, but 2064 is...more realistic.
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| June 7, 2011
| Robert Bryce
Posted on 06/08/2011 11:56:53 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
These people actually think electricity comes out of a socket ... but they havent a clue how it got there. Im really amazed.
Why, doesn’t electricity come from unicorns that crap skittles? Or is it pixie dust?
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:19:54 PM PDT
by
Fred Hayek
(FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
To: Red Badger
Well, I'm planning on getting one of these electric gators for the small farm in Kentucky. And on the roads in my area, people drive quadrunners from neighbor to neighbor, so this would be great for the road too. And with the solar power system I plan on installing, it will be doubly good.
![](http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/e-gator.jpg)
BTW, I think the fedgov still gives up to a $6,000 tax CREDIT for buying one of them, so it's basically free.
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:22:40 PM PDT
by
RobRoy
(The US today: Revelation 18:4)
To: Logic n' Reason
How do we re-charge these here batteries? (hint: electricity generated from an oil fired power plant) Logic n' Reason you are short on both, because both start with data. This is data:
![](http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2008/2/5/pie.png)
Almost NONE of the nation's electrical power comes from oil.
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:24:52 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
To: RobRoy
So was John Stossel’s golf cart...............
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:27:22 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
To: Carry_Okie
Well...hell, son! Let's use all the clean burning, non-poluting coal we can git to fire up our powerplants!!
See...now that I have data...I can think just as "green" as you.
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:28:35 PM PDT
by
Logic n' Reason
(The stain must be ERADICATED....NOW!!)
To: ThePatriotsFlag
Well actually, the point I believe is to make us less dependent on foreign oil. We only generate about 1% of our electricity from oil, the major contributor is coal. Im not sure if all our coal plants are clean coal or not, someone else may answer that if possible. In any case im not against these new hybrid electric cleaner technologies, I just dont think enough research has been done on them to make them viable, costwise aswell as performance wise. It will in a few years probably, with the main driver being big oil companies focusing more and more on renewables, aswell as cost reducing. In any case, we have more coal than the middle east has oil and we can keep going on our coal reserves for 200 years
To: ThePatriotsFlag
These people actually think electricity comes out of a socket ... but they havent a clue how it got there. Im really amazed.Hey, I used to know some idiot who thinks the same way.
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:32:18 PM PDT
by
Arrowhead1952
(zero hates Texas and we hate him back.)
To: neverdem
Well, in that case, is there any reason he shouldn’t be using them?
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:33:58 PM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: neverdem
The president also wants America hamstrung, crippled. and laying in a ditch by 2016.
To: Logic n' Reason
See...now that I have data...I can think just as "green" as you. Care to explain that?
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:46:33 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
To: Drill Thrawl
“and he wanted it to happen by 2015”
Well,,, he does think that it’s 2008 now.
To: bfree
...the idiot Volt defenders should be showing up shortly, led by whats his name-truthguy?
I'm here and ready with the truth because so many of you posting simply do not know what you are talking about.
Foremost among those is Robert Bryce himself, a journalist with no scientific or technical training either formal or practical. Bryce simply has not done his homework on the Volt. From the beginning GM only planned to produce 10,000 Volts in 2011. They will increase production to over 50,000 for 2012. Bryce's problem is that he thinks in a linear fashion. GM is releasing the Volt slowly in just a few markets because it's such a new and radical design. New technicians need to be trained to work on this vehicle. The first 10,000 units are already sold with people putting down deposits. Also many Volts are being leased because there are many who are cautious about such a new concept. These lease deals are not counted as sales.
So the problem with
low sales is really a production problem. There are NO Volts setting around Chevy Dealership lots waiting to be sold. If you do not believe this, then go over to your local Chevy Dealership and see if you see any on the lot. Go ahead
bfree. I'm calling you out right here and now. Take the challenge!
No the Chevy Volt owners are absolutely trilled with their cars. The car is fun to drive and very economical in the long run. Yes the first few years, this new technology will be expensive, but the price will come down just as it has with Wall TV's, Computers, and Cell Phones. A few of you here just might understand this.
For the record, Bryce was trashing the Volt, even before it was introduced. Now that's pathetic journalism.
The Volt has received many awards and accolates from the Motoring Press. It was "Car of the Year". It has a 5-star safety rating. I've stopped counting the awards it as won>. But if you really want to know how the Volt is doing, just ask those who have one:
Ask Volt Owners
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:48:27 PM PDT
by
truthguy
(Good intentions are not enough.)
To: hannibaal
You aren't too bright. We make most of our electricity from coal, which is, in case you haven't noticed, a fossil fuel closely related to oil. Renewables cannot come close to producing the power this country needs even before electric cars are factored in. Plugging in a million electric vehicles every night and maybe twice a day will cause a massive strain on our capacity as it stands now, not to mention how pitiful our capacity will be if we go to "renewables"(solar, wind).
Unless a huge, and I mean gigantic, upgrade in batteries is achieved there is no future for electric cars and especially if we do away with coal fired plants, which should be augmented with nuclear power.
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:49:37 PM PDT
by
calex59
To: neverdem
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:50:01 PM PDT
by
familyop
(Shut up, and eat your brains!)
It blows my mind that the same idiots who complain about global warming and energy use, are pushing to have millions of cars plugged in to the electrical grid. California ALREADY had blackouts. The coal powered electric companies are getting slammed by the govt.....and they want to plug in a few million cars on top of it?
I won’t even get into the idea of having plug in cars in Montana, Texas, Wyoming and all over the sunbelt where you drive more than you do in urban areas.
This is as idiotic as using corn for ethanol for no gain environmentally and loss economically.
The older I get the more I realize we truly are living in a sort of unreality where the media puts forth a false version that most people just accept as truth without critical thinking.
To: truthguy
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:54:13 PM PDT
by
calex59
To: truthguy
Yes, accolates should be accolades. Spell Check didn't catch it or I missed it. Yes I know the difference. Don't bother to post.
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:54:48 PM PDT
by
truthguy
(Good intentions are not enough.)
To: neverdem
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posted on
06/08/2011 12:58:06 PM PDT
by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
To: truthguy
It’s a 40K golf cart. You should buy 2 of them.
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posted on
06/08/2011 1:11:49 PM PDT
by
Beagle8U
(Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
To: Red Badger
"Mitsubishi 185-watt solar panels"
The Volt would need about 12 of those for a full, sunny day to get a full charge, along with a good charge controller, inverter, many switches with circuit protection and some expensive cabling (see copper prices). Nearly everyone who is not an electrical tech. would also have to pay a small fortune for the installation.
The batteries will degrade, and the car probably won't last very long. I have an old, two-ton, 4WD, six-cylinder gasser that's not very aerodynamic at all and gets about 23 miles to the gallon on windy highways with mountain passes. And it will pass most other newer vehicles, like they're sittin' still.
And BTW, I'm building a PV system for a home place that's way off the grid.
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posted on
06/08/2011 1:13:22 PM PDT
by
familyop
(Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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