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Why Obama Was NOT Born in Kenya
American Thinker ^ | 04/19/2011 | Don Wilkie

Posted on 04/19/2011 7:00:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Perdogg
That's the problem with the "birthers".

You are defining "birthers" as a group similar to how the media defines the "Tea Party".

Tea Party = Americans who believe in lower taxes

"birthers" are people who believe in the US Constitution and who do not take the government's word without documentation.

81 posted on 04/19/2011 7:58:58 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

uh sorry. I know you wanted to be offended, but that was not my intention.


82 posted on 04/19/2011 8:01:03 AM PDT by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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To: pgkdan
" This article is complete BS and a waste of time."

It's Communist Propaganda.....

It's design is to fool those who are sitting on the fence of this issue.... just more pure BS from the MSM/White House Propaganda machine.
83 posted on 04/19/2011 8:02:53 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Eva

I have to agree. Occam’s Razor would suggest the simplest explanation. If he’s hiding his birth record, it’s probably because his name was Barry Soetero, and then he switched it back to “Barack Hussein Obama” because he wanted to be a poser and win his way into the black radical community (when, in fact, he had been raised as a white boy).

That perhaps explains the “out-of-sequence” issue on the certificate number. The name on the COLB can be changed by adoption or by an official name change, but it might change the certificate number.


84 posted on 04/19/2011 8:03:04 AM PDT by cookcounty (Eric Holder, Head of the Department of JUST-US.)
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To: mkboyce
" What kind of a-shole tries to learn Russian in the 1960’s???"

You should not be shocked to believe that they learned Russian, the question is not WHO ? but ? WHY ? and their agenda and motive.
85 posted on 04/19/2011 8:04:47 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Perdogg

The trouble at this point is that so many crimes have been committed by both Obama and by government bureaucrats, that the only way to know what really happened is by looking at the transaction logs for Obama’s birth and citizenship records.

The HDOH has indirectly confirmed that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery. See http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/factcheck-forgery-for-dummies/ One of the ways they confirmed that is by revealing that the BC# and “date filed” on the Factcheck COLB are incompatible. Even if Obama forged the Factcheck COLB to hide something “embarrassing” (like who his dad was), that wouldn’t explain why he couldn’t copy down from his valid Hawaii BC the “date filed” and BC# that works. The only reason for him to screw up that combination is if he didn’t have a valid Hawaii BC to get that information from.

There’s way, way more that could and should be said about the way the government bureaucrats have covered for Obama. Stuff like somebody at the State Department specifically disabling the security protocols in order to allow Obama’s passport file to be breached 3 different times - the last time being shortly after the Factcheck photos of the forged COLB were taken. And such as his draft registration having a manual date-stamp of ‘08 rather than ‘80 as they tried to pass it off as (which shows that somebody IN THAT OFFICE actually forged that document for Obama).

I could talk a long time about the crimes committed by government bureaucrats in order to cover for Obama. But until I know you’re the kind of person with the integrity to actually listen, it would be wasted time, and today is going to be busy for me.

If you have the integrity to check out the facts and have some time on your hands, you could start out at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com and follow the links to see the various kinds of evidence we have that there are not only problems with Obama’s documentation but that government bureaucrats are breaking laws in order to hide that fact.


86 posted on 04/19/2011 8:07:00 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Among other reasons why Obama may not want his transcripts out there is that he obviously never took a course in economics, or if he did, it was some cornball fluff like “Marxist Perspectives on Bolivian Village Marketplaces.”


87 posted on 04/19/2011 8:07:38 AM PDT by cookcounty (Eric Holder, Head of the Department of JUST-US.)
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To: tsowellfan

“I don’t know where he was born or where his parents were born. We won’t know exactly until Obama proves his eligibility with his birth certificate.”

Actually, what proof do we have that he was born in August, 1961?

Based upon Ann’s travel to Seattle, I would say it makes sense that either he was born earlier or he was adopted, since no one seems to have seen her pregnant, or she went to Seattle much earlier and spawned him there in early summer 1961.

When I was in school there really were not that many smart black/mulatto kids with white mothers. I might add single mothers were not as common in those days either I think I would remember an odd kid like that in my class. It is remarkable how few people seem to recall Barry having been in their class, especially during his college years.

In 1969 inter-racial marriage was illegal in TX. I was a groomsman where a black friend married an Iowa girl in San Antonio and it was quite the big deal. It was also quite the big surprise when they went to Iowa where she had failed to mention Al was not the same shade of ivory everybody else was in that small town.

I realize society changed rapidly during the ‘70s but I still find it odd nobody, even in the uber liberal Hawaii and Seattle, remembers squat about a big-eared, half white, dumbass like Barry.


88 posted on 04/19/2011 8:09:20 AM PDT by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: Jim Noble

you sound realistic and logical
J Noble you have my vote


89 posted on 04/19/2011 8:10:41 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: mkboyce

I knew quite a few guys at Fordham University in the 60’s who were studying Russian . . . all were in the ROTC and most went onto military careers from which they are now retired.


90 posted on 04/19/2011 8:11:09 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: cookcounty

An admission against interest is one of the highest forms of evidence.

That’s why Abercrombie’s statements to Mike Evans that he couldn’t find a long-form for Obama and that there is no evidence of a Hawaii birth are so earth-shaking. We expect politicians to lie, but politicians don’t make stuff up that would be harmful to their cause.

And the statements to Race Bannon were given before he was a politician. In fact, it appears that he made the comment just as he was transitioning from being Barry Soetoro the Indonesian Occidental student to being Barack Hussein Obama II the supposedly US-born Columbia student. He apparently had no clue that being born in Mombassa would disqualify him from being President - which is what you would expect from somebody raised abroad and unfamiliar with the US (which is one reason why he NEEDS to be disqualified).


91 posted on 04/19/2011 8:12:49 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: SZonian
Something like him could only be spawned from a petri dish.

He was born of a jackal. Watch the Omen for more details.

92 posted on 04/19/2011 8:14:02 AM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: SeekAndFind
The one thing that amazes me about all this - and maybe it's been answered and I missed it somehow - but it seems that the scope of his "family" is very narrow; for instance, we hear about his mother, and his grandparents...and his "father" (whoever that may be), and occasionally his step-sister, but never any other relatives.

Surely his grandparents had siblings, aunts, uncles, neices, nephews...someone in that family must remember something. In 1961 mixed marriages were not that common and it would have been known in most peoples' close - and not so close - family members.

Has anyone investigated whether his grandpa "Stanley" or his Grandmother had siblings or other relatives?

We are drowning in facts about all this birther business, but starving on people with courage to expose it.
93 posted on 04/19/2011 8:16:01 AM PDT by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Gena Bukin
So why does he continue to stonewall? Simple. It's nothing more than a big F.U. to a group of people who didn't vote for him in '08 and won't vote for him in '12 regardless of what documents he coughs up.

That, and the longer he can drag it out the stupider he makes his enemies look when the other shoe finally drops.

94 posted on 04/19/2011 8:19:09 AM PDT by technonerd
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To: tsowellfan
Yeah, I know all that.

I was challenging a post that said "we KNOW Annie was in Kenya prior to the birth".

Until proven otherwise, that statement is just more birther crap.

95 posted on 04/19/2011 8:20:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
around the world travel was still possible if someone had the will to do so

You misspelled "money". Only rich people had the kind of money needed to engage in transatlantic jetting in the early 1960s -- hence the term "the jet set".

96 posted on 04/19/2011 8:21:43 AM PDT by technonerd
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To: technonerd; Gena Bukin

Addendum: I also forgot the obvious political timing issue — making his opponents looks stupid during the height of the 2012 campaign obviously does Obama a lot more good than making them look stupid now.


97 posted on 04/19/2011 8:24:18 AM PDT by technonerd
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To: technonerd
As I said, if they had the will.... i.e. a agenda..
Since his family was a bunch of Commies then they would have had no problem of coming up with that kind of money somewhere.
98 posted on 04/19/2011 8:25:43 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Absolutely. Obama senior sounds like he barely took enough time away from his studies to even conceive the little bastard.

I have never believed the underaged Stanley Ann would have gone so far away to give birth in Africa, in 1961.

She obviously disappeared to have her baby. Since she shows up with a brand newborn Barry in Seattle suddenly, she probably did what Seattle girls-in-trouble did at the time and headed to Canada to one of the Homes for Unwed Mothers in Vancouver. Probably not the catholic one - maybe the salvation army home. It makes sense. She and the parents probably did not know she was too young to confer citizenship on her baby.

I do not see any involvement by the supposed father at any time after they mated. Not sure they really married. But they were never living together.


99 posted on 04/19/2011 8:27:59 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jim Noble

Shove your links up your backside, you can’t even prove that he was born!


100 posted on 04/19/2011 8:27:59 AM PDT by dalereed
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