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Revisiting Messina vs. USCIS (Is Obama NBC via "nunc pro tunc" adoption?)
Immigration Daily ^ | October 28, 2010 | Yosef Yacob, JD, LLM, PHD

Posted on 04/02/2011 12:19:28 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: Seizethecarp

Back in 2008, while running for the Democratic Party nomination, Obama’s own website touted that his father registered him as a British subject, then when Kenya was granted independence, registered his son again a few years later as a citizen of Kenya.

That website was scrubbed summer of 2008. Factcheck.org does have information about Obama’s British and Kenyan citizenship status. I noted how the information concerning his father’s actions do not appear.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.htm

Up until 2004, Barak H. Obama never hesitated to claim in interviews that he was born in Kenya. Beckwith, at The Obama File, was able to copy some of those interviews, both printed and audio. Since 2004 the internet has been scrubbed, and all media in the U.S.A. has sanitized their archives. Up until early 2010 I was able to find interviews Obama gave to African journalists where he is described as “born in Kenya”. Those, too, have disappeared.

Note: I have seen a persistent rumor online that Obama used a Kenyan passport when traveling to/working in Pakistan 1981-1982.

I don’t know how valid that is but in 2008 was told by someone in the know that Obama worked for the CIA in Pakistan, and used a foreign passport. He received U.S. citizenship and a Baccalaureate from Columbia in return for his service. That would explain the missing time in his attendance record at Columbia University.


21 posted on 04/02/2011 3:07:33 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll
I don’t know how valid that is but in 2008 was told by someone in the know that Obama worked for the CIA in Pakistan

Pure BS ... they said the same thing about Clinton when he traveled to Russia and other points in Europe while studying at Oxford.

22 posted on 04/02/2011 3:18:27 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o

LOL!

I worked for NAVSECGRU and wrote reports for NSA. You going to say that’s bullshit, too?


23 posted on 04/02/2011 3:23:02 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

LOL! Now Obama’s CIA? Amazing. I need more tin foil.


24 posted on 04/02/2011 4:01:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama will be president until Fri, Jan 20, 2017.)
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To: Seizethecarp
but only discovery can reveal details necessary to provide SCOTUS with the evidence to make a ruling, IMO.

Well, let's see - every suit (except maybe this last one on appeal) has been dismissed for lack of standing or some other happy horse shiite, the SCOTUS continues to "evade" the issue, and Lakin sits in jail after being denied discovery. I don't anticipate any reveal of details on anything during the next two years.

25 posted on 04/02/2011 4:23:17 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: newzjunkey

I SAID that I didn’t know whether the CIA info is valid or not.

But look at the facts.

At the time, 1981 to 1982, his mother was working, in Pakistan, for USAID. Obama had been a practising Muslim and still had dual citizenships (Indonesian and Kenyan) when he traveled there to ‘visit’ his mom.

He has about a year missing from his attendance at Columbia University. No one remembers him from that time and somehow he ends up with a degree from Columbia — for doing what?

Sen. McCain said he knew of Obama as being a loyal American. Now, he didn’t say that about any of the other people running for President; why would he say that about Obama? How would he have known that?

One thing that appears off is how nearly everyone in government will not challenge Obama’s citizenship. What do they know that we do not?

Was Obama involved in an ancillary way with something in Afghanistan embarrassing to the U.S. government? Obama has made public statements indicating he despises Osama Bin Laden and Pakistan: what’s with that?

I do not know if Obama was working for the CIA in Afghanistan. I do know that the CIA used civilians as sources for intelligence during 1982 - 1986 (part of my job as a cryto-linguist for the U.S.Navy involved reading CIA reports).


26 posted on 04/02/2011 5:10:09 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: BluH2o

I recall that Clinton’s origins are about as cloudy as Obama’s. The story was his mother became pregnant by a traveling salesman who was killed in a car accident near Chicago.
When his mother was questioned about his early birth, she joked about him being an overweight preemie.


27 posted on 04/02/2011 6:11:06 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: SatinDoll
" One thing that appears off is how nearly everyone in government will not challenge Obama’s citizenship. What do they know that we do not? "

Obama, Osama, and Larry Sinclare ?
28 posted on 04/02/2011 7:12:29 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: SatinDoll
" One thing that appears off is how nearly everyone in government will not challenge Obama’s citizenship. What do they know that we do not? "

DADT = Don't ask , don't tell.


Opps, sorry, wrong line.

Correction:

" Obama has made public statements indicating he despises Osama Bin Laden and Pakistan: what’s with that? "

Obama, Osama and Larry Sinclare ?

29 posted on 04/02/2011 7:17:08 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: newzjunkey
Obama will be president until Fri, Jan 20, 2017.

LOL! I need more tin foil.
30 posted on 04/02/2011 8:39:31 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: SvenMagnussen

What about the little problem of that SS# belonging to a dead guy in Connecticut and then re-issued (unlawfully) to Zero? How do we account for that in the scenario you stated?


31 posted on 04/03/2011 4:42:23 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Natural Born 54; SvenMagnussen

I have asked Sven the same question a couple times months ago about this recycled SSN, but never received a satisfied answer???


32 posted on 04/03/2011 6:18:21 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: SvenMagnussen; danamco

re: ‘BHO II has a Connecticut based SSN because the SSA application was filed by an American Refugee Organization based in Connecticut in the mid-70’s.

In the early 70’s, a Hawaii Family court ruled the Soetoro adoption annulled and a COLB created by the HI DoH to indicated BHO Sr was the paternal parent. There is no attestation by a Hospital Administrator or Delivery Doctor because the HI DoH is following a court order and not an affidavit of witnesses.

In the mid-70’s (at time of SSN application), BHO II was a U.S.A. native born Indonesian National legally residing in America as a refugee. He bacame a naturalized U.S. citizen in the early 80s.’

SVEN - hey, cmon, this is interesting - is it speculation or have we missed something you can point us to???


33 posted on 04/03/2011 8:44:25 AM PDT by bitt ( ..Congress - either investigate Obama ...or yourselves, for complicity)
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To: Seizethecarp

There certainly was some reason why BO Sr. came back to Hawaii.

But wasn’t this before BO Jr. moved to Indonesia?


34 posted on 04/03/2011 3:01:02 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl

Barry went to Indonesia at 6 and returned at 10, IIRC, (with some confusion about where he was in third grade at age 9) and BHO Sr. came to visit in HI the first Christmas after Barry returned to HI from Indonesia in 1971.


35 posted on 04/03/2011 3:29:02 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: SvenMagnussen
BHO II has a Connecticut based SSN because the SSA application was filed by an American Refugee Organization based in Connecticut in the mid-70’s.

In the early 70’s, a Hawaii Family court ruled the Soetoro adoption annulled and a COLB created by the HI DoH to indicated BHO Sr was the paternal parent. There is no attestation by a Hospital Administrator or Delivery Doctor because the HI DoH is following a court order and not an affidavit of witnesses.

In the mid-70’s (at time of SSN application), BHO II was a U.S.A. native born Indonesian National legally residing in America as a refugee. He bacame a naturalized U.S. citizen in the early 80s.

This is good guesswork. Kudos.

36 posted on 04/04/2011 5:02:51 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: SatinDoll

Where are these audio interviews with Barry saying he was born in Kenya?


37 posted on 04/06/2011 12:12:06 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: SatinDoll

Where exactly are these audio interviews with Barry saying he was born in Kenya?


38 posted on 04/06/2011 12:12:14 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz

“Up until 2004, Barak H. Obama never hesitated to claim in interviews that he was born in Kenya. Beckwith, at The Obama File, was able to copy some of those interviews, both printed and audio. Since 2004 the internet has been scrubbed, and all media in the U.S.A. has sanitized their archives. Up until early 2010 I was able to find interviews Obama gave to African journalists where he is described as “born in Kenya”. Those, too, have disappeared.”

Everything formerly available in the public domain has been scrubbed. That doesn’t mean that they didn’t exist in the past and weren’t saved by enterprising folks.


39 posted on 04/06/2011 1:04:29 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

You said someone copied the audio interviews. I was wondering if they are posted anywhere?


40 posted on 04/06/2011 1:20:04 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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