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To: Noumenon

Sadly, if we draw a line in the sand we draw it individually and that would get us arrested and thrown in jail. The authority the Founding Fathers rebelled against was 3,000 miles and 6 weeks away. The authority taking our rights today is as close as a computer screen.

What do you suggest the “people” do besides vote their conscience.


14 posted on 03/03/2011 11:50:17 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross
Stand your ground and give your life if necessary. This is what I will do. Those who wish to confiscate my property or demand that I surrender my means of self-defense or seek to detain me for who I am or what I say will do so at the peril of their own lives.

And there are precedents other than the one you've cited. To whit:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the down-stairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of a half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur - what if it had been driven off of or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."

"If .... if... We didn't love freedom enough. And even more-we had no awareness of the real situation. We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit. We submitted with pleasure!
Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago Page 13, fn 5:

Do we love freedom enough? I guess that we're going to find out pretty soon now, aren't we?
19 posted on 03/03/2011 12:01:45 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Terry Mross

We were given the right to rebel against tyranny. Civil disobedience is in order...with weapons. The only way these people are going to get in line is to show them force. Like the Old West, the Indians respected those who were armed.


39 posted on 03/03/2011 1:30:32 PM PST by Buddygirl
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