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Pedophilia a ‘sexual orientation’ experts tell Parliament(Canada) ^ | Mon Feb 28, 2011 16:14 EST | Rebecca Millette

Posted on 03/02/2011 5:02:39 AM PST by Westbrook

OTTAWA, Ontario, February 28, 2011 ( – In a recent parliamentary session on a bill relating to sexual offenses against children, psychology experts claimed that pedophilia is a “sexual orientation” comparable to homosexuality or heterosexuality, a definition that was questioned by one Member of Parliament who was present.

Bill C-54, an Act to Amend the Criminal Code, seeks to increase or impose mandatory minimum penalties or punishment on sexual offenders of children for particular crimes.

Parliamentary discussion on February 14 centered on the mandatory minimum imprisonment and how offenders respond to treatment. Dr. Vernon Quinsey and Dr. Hubert Van Gijseghem, experts on the issue, were called to witness.

“When we speak of therapy or when individuals get therapy and we feel as though everyone is pacified, the good news is often illusory,” said Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal.

“Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offence from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality,” emphasized Van Gijseghem.

“True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation.” He added, however: “He may however remain abstinent.”

MP Serge Ménard later praised the witnesses. “Mr. Van Gijseghem and Mr. Quinsey,” said Ménard, “corrected some of our impressions.”

However, MP Marc Lemay of the Bloc Quebecois challenged Van Gijseghem’s definition. “I have to admit that I was not expecting, on this Valentine’s Day, to be talking about this inappropriate type of love. It is not really love. It has more to do with violence and control. I am concerned, Professor Van Gijseghem … because you say, if I am not mistaken, that pedophilia is a sexual orientation.”

“That is what I said,” continued Van Gijseghem.

Lemay pursued the point, asking if it therefore should “be compared to homosexuality.”

“Yes, or heterosexuality,” responded Van Gijseghem. “If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.”

During his witness, Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen’s University, said that pedophiles’ “sexual interests” “prefer prepubescent children.” “There is no evidence,” he said, “that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else.”

“You can manage the risk that sex offenders present - even pedophiles,” added Quinsey, “It’s not necessarily that they need to change their sexual orientation; they need to learn to control themselves, with our help.” “In my opinion, society and no one around this table will accept pedophilia, even if it is a sexual orientation,” said Lemay, “I recall a period, not too long ago, when homosexuality was treated as an illness. It is now accepted, society has accepted it … I cannot imagine pedophilia being accepted in 2011. You are telling me that even if we were to impose a five-year minimum on people it would not solve the problem. Once they get out of jail, they reoffend. That is worrisome.”

One columnist in the Toronto Sun, Brian Lilley, expressed shock at Van Gijseghem’s testimony: “what really shocked me was the Universite de Montreal professor, Dr. Hubert Van Gijseghem, who showed up to tell MPs pedophilia was a sexual orientation just like heterosexuality or homosexuality.” He argued that “it’s time to take our country back by ignoring the ‘experts.’”

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; experts; fdrq; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; incest; moralabsolutes; parliament; pedophilia; polyamory; polygamy; sexualorientation
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To: little jeremiah

Forty years ago, and tell me a single way that the age of sexual consent has been lowered because of them. They are making inroads in acceptance, we can all obviously see that every day and I hate it, but as soon as you start getting under the age of about 16 (legally I’m talking, and different from state to state) it hasn’t been touched.

Too many self-described “centrists” have accepted homosexuals as something to be tolerated, if two adults want to live together it doesn’t effect them much so they won’t fight it. You have those same gay guys wanting to legally invite their 12 year old kids over and hit on them then it’s a whole new situation.

Heck, the laws won’t be changed simply to keep the death toll down from fathers like me. If the laws aren’t there to protect the kids then there is only one other course of action to take, even the gay lovers out there understand the consequences of legalizing these pervert predators their lifestyle “choice” when their kids are involved.

101 posted on 03/02/2011 12:52:29 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Westbrook

We knew this was coming.

102 posted on 03/02/2011 1:02:53 PM PST by Bellflower (Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful.)
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To: Westbrook
And what about rapist and/or serial killer who need to kill for "excitement". Sexual perversion is sexual perversion no matter how they try to sanitize it and it is always destructive in it's essence. It is wicked sinfulness that only The LORD God Almighty is able to deliver someone from. Contrary to what many people may think The LORD is able to do so for the repentant deviant.
103 posted on 03/02/2011 1:09:26 PM PST by Bellflower (Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful.)
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To: Abathar

Homosexuals have tried to get the age of consent lowered; IIRC they got it lowered in Canada, and tried in the Netherlands to lower it to 12 for boys; but it got lowered to 14 instead, again, IIRC.

It’s a fact that homosexuals throughout history have been called “pederasts” for a reason. A sick, evil and disgusting reason, and it’s also a fact that a large percentage of homosexuals were themselves molested when young.

104 posted on 03/02/2011 1:11:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: chesley
But it’s not who we are attracted to that is the problem. We all have desires that someone may consider dark.

And acting upon them is what strengthens the behavior. People need to know how to say "no". They need to realize that when they are being tempted is often, at least in the beginning, it originates from the outside of themselves as it is demonic instigation. Often someone has been opened up to the demonic influence because of demons that may have attached themselves to their family from even before they were born or something evil was done to them as a child or young person. Very often they themselves have waded into pornography or some suchlike perversion not realizing that they were by their own actions opening themselves up to a host of demons assigned to bring them down into the depth of hell in any way that they might be weak and fall.

105 posted on 03/02/2011 1:21:18 PM PST by Bellflower (Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful.)
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To: Bellflower

Amen. You are correct

106 posted on 03/02/2011 1:37:37 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: Westbrook
Pedophilia a ‘sexual orientation’

No it's not! It's a predilection to perversion and predatory behavior on the weakest and most innocent.

107 posted on 03/02/2011 3:26:48 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: All

Deja vu anyone?

I give it less time to normalize this than it took to break the homo barriers. Who didn’t know this was coming? That is why the founders had capitol punishment for deviant sex offenders. To protect society. Once the line is crosses there is no more line. It’s gone.

You all are sooo intolerant! /heavy sarcasm

108 posted on 03/03/2011 8:37:26 AM PST by glassylassie
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To: Westbrook; fanfan; USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Read a blurb on RightWingNews about this. The monkey house has officially come to the Canadian Parliament.

109 posted on 03/03/2011 5:13:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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Yes pedophilia is a sexual orientation. Like homosexuality but the major difference is homosexuality is between to consenting adults while pedophilia is between one adult and one innocent child with no comprehension as to what sex even is. So if you want to say pedophilia is a sexual origination and not a mental disorder that’s fine. But it doesn’t change the fact that its still RAPE!

110 posted on 11/18/2011 11:38:10 AM PST by VincentCross
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