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Palin vs. Romney. If both seek the presidency, it could split the Republican party.
National Review ^ | 03/01/2011 | Ramesh Ponnuru

Posted on 03/01/2011 8:44:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Edited on 03/01/2011 10:15:54 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: Huck
I have no confidence in her at all, on any level.

Could you be more specific? For instance, do you think that she's a quitter? Do you question her conservative credentials? Please elaborate.

41 posted on 03/01/2011 9:08:01 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have three college degrees, including a Juris Doctor, and I can assure you that this college educated individual will NEVER vote for Romney.

I note the NR tongue kiss to Milqutoast Mitch Daniels. I’d never vote for that worm either.


42 posted on 03/01/2011 9:09:18 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Leave the gun. Take the canolis.)
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To: TaxPayer2000; fish hawk

Policy, I might concede a little.
Actions, she would rather be in the spot light, and I can’t stand that.
It seems that every other thread on this awesome website has Palin in it.
And don’t tell me she isn’t eating it up.
She would be better served spreading the message than holding office.


43 posted on 03/01/2011 9:10:56 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 (I am unique, Just like everybody else.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
My claim stands and you just verified it for the rest of us......

Not sure what that means. But let me ask you this. Will you vote for Sarah Palin if she is on the ballot? Or will you just concede the victory to Obama?

44 posted on 03/01/2011 9:11:42 AM PST by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: roses of sharon

It sounds like Ramesh is doing a little too much speculating here, he already determine what will happen and how it dooms everyone in the GOP...... Why can’t we wait until the Primary season starts and see what Sarah has to offer on her own instead of these yahoos saying that she will lose- people will say “well, I don’t you say that about Mitt?”. Well Mitt already ran in 2008, we saw what he offered on his own - inauthentic, fakery and finger in the wind decision choices


45 posted on 03/01/2011 9:12:06 AM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: SeekAndFind

IMHO, and, yes, this does smack of religious prejudice, but it is my observation from Bible belt NC, that if Palin won the nomination by a whisker, Romney’s supporters would back her in the general election.

However,

If Romney won the nomination, I sincerely doubt that many of Palin’s (or really Huckabee’s) conservative Christian supporters would back Romney because of his Mormonism. They would simply not vote in the POTUS election but would vote down-ticket.

All it would take would be for a few old and new Southpark episodes (cleaned-up, of course...) to generate Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) in the conservative Christian base and cause them to shy away from supporting Romney with the requisite enthusiasm needed for victory.

My apologies to LDS Freepers, but that is the way I see it here.

BTW, if I had the pleasure of hiring the COO for the USA, I would pick Romney in a heartbeat.


46 posted on 03/01/2011 9:12:06 AM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: SeekAndFind
If either Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Jim Diment{sp?}, Allen West win the republican nomination for President, I will vote for either of them. Should the Republicans nominate the same RINOs I will write in one of the four I named.

The other races? If it is betwen a Democrator RINO, I wlii leave blank.

47 posted on 03/01/2011 9:12:42 AM PST by sport
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To: wolfman23601
"f Romney wins, Palin will endorse him and everyone on herewill do exactly what she says. "

The hell I will. If Mittwit wins then it means the GOP left me. I will write in my dog's name.

48 posted on 03/01/2011 9:12:48 AM PST by Big Bronson
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To: Huck
The toll road runt is not it, but his little rino butt maybe could run for national dog catcher.
49 posted on 03/01/2011 9:12:56 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: TexasPatriot1
Until she stops acting like an establishment RINO, I will do whatever I can to ensure she does not make it on the ballot to begin with.

Have you been hanging out with Charlie Sheen lately?

50 posted on 03/01/2011 9:13:27 AM PST by McGruff (Is it time to Drill Baby Drill yet?)
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To: cowboyway
Could you be more specific?

Why? What's the point? What's on my mind right now is not how to describe my assessment of Sarah Palin. It's set. My interest is the very good question raised by this post: If not Romney or Palin, then who?

51 posted on 03/01/2011 9:14:00 AM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney’s advantages: money, looks, name recognition.

Romney’s disadvantages: Romneycare, Mormonism, sleaze factor.

I’ll pretty much vote for anyone against Obama, but Romney would be hard to stomach.


52 posted on 03/01/2011 9:15:09 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: TaxPayer2000

I will vote for the other guys dog.


53 posted on 03/01/2011 9:15:53 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: SeekAndFind

Change doesn’t happen overnight - or perhaps in one election cycle. Are we willing to accept another 4 years of Obama by making the next election a split between Conservatives and “Traditional Republicans” aka RINOs? Or are we willing to roll the dice with a common-sense Tea Party Conservative who may have his or her own imperfections but is cast from a different mold, and who stands for more than a political label?

This debate will go on for the next year, plus. It’s up to us and if we can’t get folks on a conservative forum like FR to coalesce around an approach, isn’t that tantamount to saying the media and ruling class are going to make this decision?


54 posted on 03/01/2011 9:15:53 AM PST by bigbob
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To: McGruff

Thank you, no.
Just my ultra-conservative friends.


55 posted on 03/01/2011 9:17:47 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 (I am unique, Just like everybody else.)
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To: SeekAndFind
By this logic, anybody who runs against anybody else is "splitting the party."

Let's not even bother with a primary.

Let's let Karl and his buddies decide who we want.

56 posted on 03/01/2011 9:17:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Romney may have the money and the organization, but I don’t know how he can win the Republican Nomination with Romneycare hanging around his neck. It’s like a big anvil and even Obama is complimenting him on it. That’s an endorsement he doesn’t need.

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A talk show host I typically enjoy was trying to cast this today as BO deliberately trying to ruin Romney’s chances, because Romney might be such a powerful candidate. I turned the radio off. Romney rehabilitation and promotion is something I will not voluntarily endure.

I will never understand why some conservatives - usually women - find him “attractive”. He strikes me as a political analogue to Ted Bundy.


57 posted on 03/01/2011 9:18:11 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: TaxPayer2000
Other than the fact that you are trolling for a fight, just look back on my history in 2008. I clearly hate McCain, but voted for him anyway, mostly because Palin was on the ticket.

Since then I have been paying very close attention to Palin, and I do not like what I see. Her blind following has stars in their eyes and cannot see any further than her Face Book page.

58 posted on 03/01/2011 9:18:18 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: Huck
That's me. Anyone else out there in the same boat? Any suggestions? So far, as the author alludes, Daniels is probably the best hope at the anti-Palin/anti-Romney, despite his recent troubles.

And his "recent troubles" have been overblown by precisely the sort of identity politics that Ponnuru describes in his excellent article.

The so-called "truce" on social issues, for example: if you read Daniels' actual comments, they make a great deal of sense, and are in no way the "surrender" that the yahoos try to make them out to be.

The uproar about "right to work" is a result of an understandable and justifiable tactical move. Daniels never had actual control over the issue to begin with; his decision was whether or not to push the Republican-controlled Indiana House to make it an issue.

All of this noise reflects the decadence of the GOP, and its fundamental lack of seriousness. We all know what the really big issues are -- the ones that threaten us now. We know it. But the party platform is driven by single-issue hysterics who place their own agendas above the good of the country (not just the party).

God save us from our own stupid party....

59 posted on 03/01/2011 9:19:02 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Big Bronson

So what did you do in 2008?

Write your dog’s name? Vote for Obama? Vote for McCain? Sit it out?

It seems to me the same threats were being launched by the Freep concensus in 2007. Then McCain won the nomination and within 2 months, Freep became the McCain cheerleading ground. No doubt you will be voting for Mitt if he wins the nomination, despite what you say now.


60 posted on 03/01/2011 9:19:20 AM PST by wolfman23601
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