WHAT DEMOCRATS and UNIONS DONT WANT YOU TO SEE!!!! (Wisconsin)

http://dpi.state.wi.us/lbstat/newasr.html ^ | Feb 17, 2011 | LibFreeUSA

[TrumpisRight]

Thanks for your reply. My wife is also a teacher of special ed K-2. She comes home every weekday afternoon tired.

You did not answer the other question I asked about teachers working during their summer breaks.

[muawiyah]

Sorry, with 10,000,000 empty homes in America, and a 15 year overhang of relatively new construction projects completed, summer construction is not an option ~

The age of supplemental summer employment is long gone. Obama made sure those jobs disappeared first.

[muawiyah]

But are they "higher" than comparable jobs in the private sector? Are they even "higher" than private sector teaching jobs?

Just what are they really higher than ~

[rabidralph]

Please freep two polls. One to show support for Gov. Walker's bill and the other to condemn the crybabies running away from the capital.

[An American In Dairyland]

Your liberal sympathies are noted. I meant what I said and I said what I meant. If you can’t comprehend you probably are the product of a public school system.

[muawiyah]

Hmm ~ "Like a bunch of Democrats about ....."

Syllogism Analogy FAIL

Democrats do squeal about bloated plutocrats and evil corporations ~ failure to KNOW THAT suggests you may be from DU or something.

[muawiyah]

People on FR are not like the idiots you usually play with over at DU or HuffPo ~ when you say "salaries are appreciably HIGHER than the private sector" it is considered quite reasonable to ask WHAT jobs in the private sector are you comparing those jobs with those salaries to.

You go to the NYSE floor and the salaries there are appreciably higher than salaries you and I probably can't even dream about, but the question is are they appreciably higher than the salaries paid to floor traders in other exchanges.

Demanding absolutely equal outcomes irrespective of education, age, opportunity and experience is a Communist Party policy. We must use something more complex than Marxist cant to figure this out. I sure don't want to pay teachers more than they're worth, but I don't want to send them to the hog farm for punishment either.

That'd be a waste of the teachers' time, and it might frighten the piggies giving next month's bacon a funny taste!

[iamweasle]

Tax public sector wages and benefits that are not in line with the private sector. Use the money for property tax relief or aid to private sector benefits.

[Marathoner]

It's not any better in the People's Republic of Illinois.

http://www.ntui.org/NTUI/downloads/11910Pensionshandout.pdf

[Eepsy]

My kids go to a little Catholic school, where they are receiving a fantastic education from licensed, degreed teachers who, I can guarantee you, are not pulling down $30,000+ a year in fringe benefits.

[badgerlandjim]

bttt

[muawiyah]

Frankly, I don’t know what Catholic school school teachers make. There could be some benefits we don’t know about too.

[MsLady]

I really don’t see the point in the bureaucrats. The parents and teachers use to decide on the curriculum, that’s the way it should be. The buses and buildings, I’m not so sure you can do without.

[Eska]

We pay for our own classes.

We live rural, along the Yukon. We don't even leave our place for weeks at a time, work in garden, go out on the river set nets for kings, do all the summer chores in the 24 hr sun. We couldn't ever live a fast pace life again; kinda like the going back in time feeling. Life is quite good.

[Presbyterian Reporter]

There is a lot of waste in the school systems. It is not only the administrators and teachers that are costing too much. That was the point I was trying to make.

[freemama]

180 days

[MsLady]

I’m sure there is. When I look at teachers salaries they don’t look outrageous I guess it’s more their retirement and insurance. Looks like most places the tax payers pay for most or all of that.

[MsLady]

Just looked up teachers salaries for Wisconsin. Not bad but, some of the other stuff listed was interesting.

Heres the website: http://teacherportal.com/salary/Wisconsin-teacher-salary

Seems that on average teacher to student ratio is 1 teacher for every 14.7 students. I heard O'Rielly say that when he went to Catholic School he had 60 students in his calls to one Nun. But, those Nuns you don't mess with...lol Looks like Wisconsin could lay off some teachers. By half?

[meyer]

Yes, the student:teacher ratio is pretty low these days, and that is because the union sold people on the idea that fewer students per teacher would result in a better education. Horsehockey - we routinely had 35-50 kids per class when I was in school and somehow, most of us still managed to learn something. Of course, back when I was in school, they still issued failing grades and a "C" was still average.

They could cut the number of teachers in half in Wisconsin if they truly have a 14.7:1 ratio, but the big savings would come from cutting out the plethora of useless administrators that school systems now employ. I wonder what the student to administrator ratio is now, as compared to 30 years ago.