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Posted on 02/17/2011 11:58:20 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
Here is the REAL TRUTH behind the OUT-OF-CONTROL public education SALARIES which YOU AND I are paying with our tax dollars....HERE
The teachers are actually very low. I have never had a beef with my kids teachers when they were in public school.
My kids were mostly blessed with wonderful Christian teachers.
I had a problem with bloated school administrators.
$30,000 in fringe benefits is not modest, however, and that is where all the money is going — pensions and health insurance that the teachers are barely contributing anything to. Compared to the private sector, $30,000 is very high for it to be an “average”. The bill in Wisconsin is only asking for the teachers to pay 12% of their health insurance costs and to contribute 50% of their pensions. That pension formula would still be equivalent to a private employer matching 100% of employee 401k contributions. Most employers match a max of 25% of the employees’ 401k contributions.
Great post & thread. BTTT!
The last column is “Fringe” as in “Fringe benefits”, aka health insurance and pension costs.
BTTT
When I hear about all these teachers that can't be fired, well that's not true either. School districts have numerous ways to remove problem teachers; they get rid of them pretty quick here in Alaska.
There's so much politics in education today, a big detractor concerning improvement.
There needs to be more accountability also. Teachers, school boards, and especially parents need to be held accountable for students in our schools; it all starts in the home, no joke.
Something else, I hear more and more teachers who are receptive to state control over education, rather than the Feds. I also see many more dedicated teachers out there than most FR's would ever believe existed. I just wish more were conservative.
My wife teaches spec ed & elementary, mostly Native kids. Last couple years, every kid in her room has passed the state benchmark testing; high incidence of FAS too. I see many great teachers out there, honestly, most people on FR see only a small part of the picture. I just wish more of those great teachers were Repubs, ha.
I lot of Admins do per diem in the summer as well.
Ed, Psych testing, evals.
Find me a teacher on the link I supplied that makes $7500 per year. BTW the datamine will show how long they were employed, so if you find any that were employed for a month and say ‘here it is’ you just proved yourself wrong. Don’t even think people are dumb enough to swallow the idea that anyone in the teacher’s union makes $7500 per year. The datamine link I provided shows their fringe and yearly pay rate. All made a very very nice living for working 190 days a year, being able to use saved sick days toward their retirement, having a fringe package that is worth over $35K (not the substitute teachers), retirement packages available at 55, etc...
Right ~ any job you do 9 months out of the year is your job ~ all year long!
Around here even without negotiating for it (since the state long ago removed their rights to bargain through a union) the teachers get paid monthly just like they were at work.
That way if they pick up summer school work, or painting houses, that's "above the base" and they feel it.
We also allow college graduates to take a one year program that gives them "teaching credentials". This is particularly handy in picking up the 20/25 year military retirees.
Sure, it's possible to get that ~ the illegal aliens in Fairfax County get more than that, but in much of the country agricultural labor makes that, or less.
I think the question we need to ask is WHAT teaching assignment drew only $7,500? Could that have been a driving instructor for summertime driver ed? That's pretty common now having been driven out of the regular school year by nanny-nots who fail to understand that driver's ed is as American as apple pie and failing algebra for the third time eh!
The salary list is great. It proves that to make money you need to QUIT the unions!!!!!
Nope, 9 months is 9 months, a year is 12. My dad was a teacher, he worked construction during the summer, my wifes friend is a teacher, she relaxes all summer. I have no sympathy for public sector union goons, none.
Last year my little company went through a very difficult period, I had to fire two people form my division, and tell the remaining six, including my self that there would be a 15-25% pay-cut for the foreseeable future. None of them called in sick, picketed or disrupted the office. Several told me they could not live on the reduced salary and my best sales person eventually quit but not one of them acted like a spoiled rotten child.
The people mobbing in Madtown are pathetic creeps.
Anybody know how many days the kids go to school in Wisconsin each year??
Federal minimum wage for the year reported was $7.25. Now I suppose it's not too hard to imagine the way bloated administration trying to pay someone tip wages but I doubt it.
when i approached my county executive about cutting the salaries of higher paid county employees instead of raising taxes... he said that employees grow used to living on those wages and even a small 5 % decrease can cause hardship, but he doesn’t think twice about a 5% property tax increase...
it is good we are starting to see the change.
i now have hope for the first time in this administration.
teeman
Walker is not addressing salaries, that is correct. Not yet. Likely it is coming and the union cry babies and thugs know it. Oh well...too bad, so sad. My husband has had no job at all TWICE since Barry was illegally sworn in. And still we have to pay TAXES to support these worthless “workers.” Let them join the Real World.
What Walker is really addressing here is not merely the union “workers” contributing to their health insurance and pension. The BIG thing the Union is afraid of is that Walker is seeking to set aside collective bargaining (what the union calls a right...but it isn’t a right). It is THIS that would in effect break the backbone of the Unions if not outright BUST them completely.
I support Governor Walker 100% and have emailed my support. Other WI taxpayers might want to do the same. Supportive calls and emails are more important than some realize at a time like this.
The salaries listed do not include the Fringe Bennies which are somewhere around $30,000 or more a year.
Also keep in mind that teachers do NOT work a Full Time job like us taxpayers in the private sector do. They do not work 8 hour days. They do not work 40 hour weeks. They do not work 12 months a year. That means that those salaries are appreciably HIGHER than the private sector...far higher than they appear at first glance.
That is insane. Wisconsin doesn’t even have the tax base to generate those kind of government salaries.
The left are mentally crippled and must be stopped.
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