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The Birther Card
American Thinker ^ | 2/13/2011 | Cindy Simpson

Posted on 02/13/2011 8:19:54 AM PST by jdoug666

Hawaii's new governor, Neil Abercrombie, stirred the "birther" pot just before Christmas when he promised to launch an expedition for Obama's long form birth certificate.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; birther; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama
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The anti-birther statist cabal is running out of steam.
1 posted on 02/13/2011 8:19:57 AM PST by jdoug666
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The greatest point in this article is not even about the BC.

It is true that conservative media, Including Our Rush Limbaugh, is so soft that all it does is React to mainstream media. They Create the news. We respond, we quote, we get angry.

Bullpoop. We need to start the conversations. We need cojones now.

Here’s a way to start this particular subject: someone tomorrow come out and ask the world why and how Nancy Pelosi certified Obama as eligible without any documentation. Just because you want someone as your candidate does not mean they can be. Why are the Hawaii certification docs different from the other 56 (lol) states? Just ask this publicly, conservative talkers. Start here.


2 posted on 02/13/2011 8:30:11 AM PST by Yaelle
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Birthers will have to realize they’ve been beat on the BC issue and move on to other documentation to establish eligibility.

Form 5, Application for SSN (non-US citizen legal resident can obtain a SSN)
College financial aid file
College transcripts
IRS tax returns during college
Naturalization paperwork on file with USCIS


3 posted on 02/13/2011 8:34:24 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Everything you need to know is known unknowns)
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You know, even IF the birth certificate exists and is real, there is the fact that Obama plays games, and that alone should express VOLUMES about his character alone. Someone so duplicitous and conniving and underhanded should not be in control in any shape or form, and a faction of Americans that do not see this, or have no problem with this are the lowest form of pond scum on earth. (I know I'm stating the obvious, but I'm just so p***ed off at who sits in office and what kind of man he is. 2012 cannot come soon enough for true change... but even then I worry we won't get it).
4 posted on 02/13/2011 8:34:34 AM PST by swatbuznik
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"The Birther Trial Balloon," . . . perhaps this entire [Abercrombie] performance was a sort of media test run to see how the public would react to the non-release of the certificate in advance of Obama's run for 2012 reelection.

Is it asking too much for these arrogant jerks to release a document that we little people are required to release many times throughout our life times? Maybe it's not arrogance, maybe they are just flat scared because there ain't no Obama long form birth certificate in the whole Untied States of America! Maybe.

All we are saying♩♪♫
is give release a chance♩♪♫

5 posted on 02/13/2011 8:39:47 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Yaelle
Why did Nancy Pelosi certify Obama as eligible without any documentation?

Because she KNEW Obama was ineligible, and didn't care one bit. Installing a black man as president was far more important than a silly little thing like the U. S. Constitution.

She should be in Leavenworth.

6 posted on 02/13/2011 8:41:01 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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The birth certificate is a red-herring.

Obama was born with dual US/British citizenship due to his father's status as a British subject.

Being born with dual-citizenship makes him ineligible for the US Presidency.

End of story.

7 posted on 02/13/2011 8:44:54 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: LucyT

Ping!


8 posted on 02/13/2011 8:45:03 AM PST by Spunky (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Why don't you let everyone decide for themselves.

Who elected you class president?

If you want to pursue Form 5, Application for SSN (non-US citizen legal resident can obtain a SSN), College financial aid file, College transcripts, IRS tax returns during college, Naturalization paperwork on file with USCIS, good luck to you.

But don't be so arrogant as to decide for everyone else.

9 posted on 02/13/2011 8:45:31 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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RE: "Someone so duplicitous and conniving and underhanded should not be in control in any shape or form, and a faction of Americans that do not see this, or have no problem with this are the lowest form of pond scum on earth."

You're talkin' about the Rat Party here.

Obama is the biological and ideological issue of 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus/street revolutionary rabble. Obama and these radicals are arguably now the Establishment.

They are the Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party).

I remember Henry "Scoop" Jackson, Hubert Humphrey, Harry Truman -- I knew the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party was a friend of America. The Rat Party is no Democratic Party.

10 posted on 02/13/2011 8:54:19 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: jdoug666

I am a birther.


11 posted on 02/13/2011 8:56:06 AM PST by y6162
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To: SvenMagnussen
How about something as simple as a High School Diploma?

I guess even that is too much to ask from the man with no past.

How do we even know he ever existed before Illinois Senate? He could be an android that Soros built in his basement for all we know about him.

12 posted on 02/13/2011 8:57:21 AM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Beckwith

His vital records have been shown. People need to understand his original BC was sealed by Court order (written down according Abercrombie) when the Soetoro adoption was finalized.

The only vital record legally viable, at this time, is Obama’s COLB.

It’s time to move on to Obama’s other records ... SSN application, college financial aid file, etc.

Feel free to ignore me if you don’t like the message.


13 posted on 02/13/2011 8:59:41 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Everything you need to know is known unknowns)
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To: jdoug666

I think it’s heating up again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_527615&v=LzULQb3zpmo


14 posted on 02/13/2011 9:06:11 AM PST by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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People need to understand his original BC was sealed by Court order

ok, sealed by court order....reference please....is there a document? the actual court order?

can you provide it?


15 posted on 02/13/2011 9:08:03 AM PST by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: jdoug666
Unless Obama pulls out a certificate listing a birth father other than the one Abercrombie remembers seeing him with as a child, or reneges on the assertion on his "Fight the Smears" campaign website that he had, until age 23, foreign citizenship from his Kenyan father, he won't qualify for the ballots in these two states [Arizona and Nebraska].

Yes he will. The courts will toss those bills because individual states don't get to rewrite the Constitution's eligibility criteria, and thus, those bills are unconstitutional and cannot be enforced.

In their idiot birther enthusiasm, Nebraska and Arizona have overreached and thereby snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. It would be perfectly sufficient and constitutional simply to require candidates to produce documentation of their birth. In Zero's case, that would mean he would be required to waive his Hawaii privacy rights and allow the Hawaii DoH to cough up all that it has. Then, if the results appear not support his eligibility, that would be a separate federal, not state, case.

16 posted on 02/13/2011 9:09:02 AM PST by cynwoody
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his original BC was sealed by Court order (written down according Abercrombie) when the Soetoro adoption was finalized.

Yet there was no problem getting Ryan's divorce records unsealed by the bamsters Chi town thugs.

17 posted on 02/13/2011 9:13:25 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Birthers have not been beat, far from it ! Most Americans do not believe He has has one to show, The Democrat party just took the largest defeat We alive will ever see, The issue is a Cancer on democrats, growing... 21 months its a do over, they Will lose the Senate, Nancy will Not be Speaker, and I personally believe zer0 will be history
18 posted on 02/13/2011 9:20:09 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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Both Barak Obama and Nancy Pelosi signed legal documents attesting to the truthfulness of their claim that Obama met the constitutional requirements for eligibility for the office of president. If it is ever officially proven that Obama was in fact ineligible, Obama and Pelosi and no doubt other powerful people would face major prosecution and the possibility of serious jail terms and fines. I continue to think the RAT party can’t risk this and will decide that Obama may not run for re-election. Of course they will need him to claim his decision has nothing to do with the eligibility question. However, his window of plausible deniability is starting to close.


19 posted on 02/13/2011 9:20:09 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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> Both Barak Obama and Nancy Pelosi signed legal documents attesting to the truthfulness of their claim that Obama met the constitutional requirements for eligibility for the office of president.

And the New York State Supreme Court, last month, found the New York Board of Elections guilty of fraud for certifying a British citizen (Barack H. Obama) as eligible to be the 2008 candidate for POTUS.
The hushed that one up and hid it away, didn’t they?
Virtually zero news coverage.


20 posted on 02/13/2011 9:36:35 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016)
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