This is what happens to Westerners and those Egyptians who support the civil discourse of democracy, those who have your particular approach.Good luck with it.Unfortunately there is no "talking." This is why Mubarak was necessary in the first place, a benevolent dicator.And Mubarak or o me like him is still necessary. Those who would take what peace and freedom that Egyptians have triumph in a democracy, because they do not have civil discourse. They have the remedies of the 7th Century