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Senators: Local Mountains Need New Names (Maryland Libs Run Amok)
Cumberland, MD Times-News ^
| February 6, 2011
| Mike Sawyers
Posted on 02/06/2011 5:01:36 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Venturer
“It has Civil War roots you know.”
No, not at all.
It is much older than that. They are the heraldic colors of the Calvert and Crossland families, former who were granted proprietorship here.
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posted on
02/07/2011 7:13:09 AM PST
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
To: Viking2002
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posted on
02/07/2011 7:21:28 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
To: the OlLine Rebel
Suggest you read this .
http://www.sos.state.md.us/Services/FlagHistory.aspx
During the war, Maryland-born Confederate soldiers used both the red-and-white colors and the cross bottony design from the Crossland quadrants of the Calvert coat of arms as a unique way of identifying their place of birth. Pins in the cross bottony shape were worn on uniforms, and the headquarters flag of the Maryland-born Confederate general Bradley T. Johnson was a red cross bottony on a white field.
By the end of the Civil War, therefore, both the yellow-and-black Calvert arms and the red-and-white colors and bottony cross design of the Crossland arms were clearly identified with Maryland, although they represented opposing sides in the conflict. As officers and soldiers returned home after the war to resume their peacetime occupations, the greatest challenge facing the country was reconciliation. Nowhere was the problem more serious than in deeply divided Maryland, where veterans who had fought under the red-and-white secession colors” had to be reintegrated into a state that had remained true to the Union.
As the slow process of reconciliation took place in post-Civil War Maryland, a new symbol emerged. A flag incorporating alternating quadrants of the Calvert and Crossland colors began appearing at public events. While the design derived directly from the seventeenth-century Calvert family coat of arms, for Marylanders of the 1880s the new banner must have conveyed a powerful message. The passage of time had gradually diminished the passions of former Rebels and Yankees, permitting them to work together once again. Now the colors they had fought under had come together as well, symbolically representing through this new flag the reunion of all the state’s citizens.
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posted on
02/07/2011 7:22:02 AM PST
by
Venturer
To: Venturer
I’m sorry if I’m wrong about the details of the particular flag. But it is still “rooted” in the original colonial Marylanders.
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posted on
02/07/2011 7:25:21 AM PST
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
To: Viking2002
The mountain, he said, was actually named in the language of the time in tribute to a black mans heroism.Yeah, yeah. Don't go muddying the debate waters with facts.
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posted on
02/07/2011 7:26:39 AM PST
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
To: the OlLine Rebel
Whatever you say. No sense in arguing with someone who has read the history and still does not believe it.
Certainly the Calvert colors and the Botany Cross are rooted in colonial history, but the two were not put together to form the present day flag until after the Civil war.
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posted on
02/07/2011 7:32:37 AM PST
by
Venturer
To: eCSMaster; the OlLine Rebel
OK, people. I
looked it up here. Negro Mountain at 3075' is actually the second highest mountain in Maryland. It is part of the same range but not the same mountain as Mt. Davis, the highest point in Pennsylvania at 3213'. And yes, markers on I-68, pass along both Negro Mountain and Polish Mountain.
The highest point in Maryland is the peak of Backbone Mountain at 3360', located at the SW crook of where Maryland's panhandle juts into West Virginia.
So, yeah, Maryland actually has a higher "mountain" than Pennsylvania, but we have a lot more of them.
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posted on
02/07/2011 8:03:12 AM PST
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: Lazamataz
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posted on
02/07/2011 9:38:06 AM PST
by
RedMDer
(Stimulus... hasn't stimulated ANYTHING but The TEA PARTY!!! - Sarah Palin)
To: Venturer
Very interesting. Thanks! There's just one little thing I might find exception to;
The passage of time had gradually diminished the passions of former Rebels and Yankees, permitting them to work together once again
Not in some parts. lol.
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posted on
02/07/2011 9:45:19 AM PST
by
RedMDer
(Stimulus... hasn't stimulated ANYTHING but The TEA PARTY!!! - Sarah Palin)
To: Lazamataz
To: 9YearLurker
I've been expecting the tendrils of creeping PC to snake their way up there for about fifteen years. Every time I go home, I tell myself it's only a matter of time before some militant, urban I-95 POS feigns some contrived indignation and tries to re-engineer the culture and history of the region to their liking. Looks like that day has arrived. And I hope my folks up there have the huevos to chase them all the way back down to the Bay. At musketpoint, if need be. I despise liberals with every last fiber of my being.
"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."
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posted on
02/07/2011 3:32:44 PM PST
by
Viking2002
(RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!)
To: Roccus
I clicked on your name - your profile is as empty as Hussein Obama's work resume. Better check it yourself - you got that whole 'Hawaii birth certificate' thing going on there.
"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."
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posted on
02/07/2011 3:36:45 PM PST
by
Viking2002
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To: Viking2002
Suggest "Constitution" Mountain and "Declaration" mountain. That ought to make their heads explode.
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posted on
02/07/2011 3:39:43 PM PST
by
paulycy
(Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
To: Venturer
Sorry; you said it had “roots” in the CW. I see “roots” as its background, not the flag itself.
Plus, in that same history, you’ll see they incorporated the Calvert/Crossland combo in the state seal just prior to the CW - never mind Calvert used both his families’ colors exactly that manner when he came here. So, such a combo was not brand new to anyone with some knowledge of their colony/state back then, apparently including 1854.
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posted on
02/07/2011 4:17:18 PM PST
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
To: Viking2002
You’re right. For some reason my West Virginia state flag is gone.
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posted on
02/07/2011 5:03:12 PM PST
by
Roccus
(Joe Biden.....America's only living brain donor.)
To: Viking2002
It’s back now. Thank you for making me aware. Lately I’ve been noticing that state flags are not shown on many “about” pages. Wonder if during one of FR’s many recent outages some were dropped. I’d had mine up since I first joined and have no idea how/when it came down.
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posted on
02/07/2011 5:18:15 PM PST
by
Roccus
(Joe Biden.....America's only living brain donor.)
To: Roccus
I think that the databases get hosed up during system maintenance once in a while, and something in your profile that's flagged gets reset. What part of WV are you from?
"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."
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posted on
02/07/2011 11:18:19 PM PST
by
Viking2002
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To: Viking2002
Born, raised and lived in NYC for 57 years. Moved here to Upshur county in early 2002. Between scouting out the area and moving myself, I passed by the Negro and Polish Mountain signs many, many times.
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posted on
02/08/2011 3:11:52 AM PST
by
Roccus
(Joe Biden.....America's only living brain donor.)
To: paulycy
Suggest "Constitution" Mountain and "Declaration" mountain. That ought to make their heads explode. Explode they would.
How about "Obama Mountain" and "Mikulski Mountain"?
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posted on
02/08/2011 5:00:15 AM PST
by
foxfield
(Sarah Palin, America's "girl next door".)
To: Roccus
Ah. The wife and I have been in the planning stages of building a log home. I've threatened her more than once that we're going to move and build it in Snowshoe, and we'll just own and run a rustic arts and crafts shop for the benefit of the out-of-town snow bunnies. LOL
"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."
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posted on
02/08/2011 5:29:03 PM PST
by
Viking2002
(RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!)
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