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New Heroes vs. Old (Rockfeller & Ford made our lives better. Is it bad that they became rich?)
National Review ^ | 01/25/2011 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 01/25/2011 6:50:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/25/2011 6:50:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Rockefeller was a sunovabi* and produced a sunovabi* family who continue to practice his methods of slashing & burning everyone else so that your thing dominates.


2 posted on 01/25/2011 6:57:02 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is it bad that they became rich?

IMO, it is not bad that they, or others, become wealthy. It is bad when they use that wealth as power to steer Government to affect what OTHER Americans are allowed to do with their wealth.
3 posted on 01/25/2011 6:57:47 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: SeekAndFind

The corporations that were started and thrived here in America can thank the people who worked for those companies. Sure, those people were making a living and the owners became wealthy. It is apaulling to me to now see many of those same companies abandon this country and it’s people and relocate the manufacturing of their product to another country. They must have forgotten from where they came.


4 posted on 01/25/2011 7:00:41 AM PST by drypowder
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5 posted on 01/25/2011 7:10:43 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Red Badger

That pic did not come out so well...


6 posted on 01/25/2011 7:11:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

looks fine to me...........


7 posted on 01/25/2011 7:13:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

People today who complain about the automobile’s pollution have no idea how much more pollution there was before the automobile came along. In New York City, for example, the 40,000 horses that were the backbone of the city’s transportation before the automobile produced 400 tons of manure per working day, along with 20,000 gallons of urine


The smell before cars and modern sewage systems must have been intense. I would go so far as to suggest that cars, indoor plumbing and waste management have played a huge role in our increased life span. It is much more sanitary today, easier to keep from getting a serious disease.


8 posted on 01/25/2011 7:15:12 AM PST by Spudx7
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To: SeekAndFind

How about THIS one?........

9 posted on 01/25/2011 7:16:33 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And then their money was put into starting up tax free foundations that fund every subversive group in America.


10 posted on 01/25/2011 7:18:17 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: drypowder
I'll have to disagree there.

American workers aren't, in large, great workers anymore.

Oh yes, my brother, my cousin, my uncle, etc... a million “personal examples” of hardworking blue collar workers.

But in large, in a labor force, you'd have to be OUT OF YOUR MIND, to open a company that involves anything but “services” (and that is quickly changing too- I've found India customer service much more pleasant than American once you get past the accent) in the USA at this point.

Risk v Reward... why would I risk so much, only to have people instantly organize, demand what is unreasonable and above market, then take my risk (re: company) down because they are mad they didn't have the determination, foresight, intelligence, will to RISK, that the founder/owner did. These people don't even appreciate that this person has created a job for them... they hold them in contempt.

I'm embarrassed at the state of the American worker..and don't expect anyone with half a brain to make anything here until unions are castrated, taxes lowered (and here we see them moving the opposite direction to a VAT), wages left to the market, and employers held liable to the extreme for using illegal labor.

There was a time, that I think your referring to, when MADE in America, meant a skilled, caring craftsmen/factory worker, actually put their soul and pride into things, and management cared about their reputation, and those attitudes were reflected in the outcome of the product. Not today- most people working in blue collar labor who aren't from the “greatest generation) by and large see it as a punishment (why on earth, I have no idea) they have to work and that the man who actually put this all together (as If working a production job daily is ANYWHERE near the level of personal,planning, time, and financial investment the founder/owners/ management put in.

Yes, I have relatively strong feelings on this issue, as I think the loss of our true manufacturing base and the true “American attitude” is our biggest undoing.

11 posted on 01/25/2011 7:24:24 AM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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Mr. Sowell we respect you as one of the most reasonable and perspicacious contemporary commentators. And as usual your memo here is appropriate.

But:

John D. Rockefeller IV, i.e. Jay Rockefeller, is a current Senator in West Virginia, which with by the way, like Hillary Clinton with New York, he has little native association, just leverage to become a political honcho.

Jay Rockefeller is a Democrat, who like all similar, needs to appease his own guilt and protect his own selfishness, by using other people's money to appear as generous. This individual, like virtually all Democrats, is a sick example of humanity - he actually executes his life as one big rationalization, confiscating and using other people's resources. If you do not understand this then you are the problem.

I believe it was Christ who said it was harder for a rich man to aspire to heaven than ... And Jay Rockefeller, George Soros, Marc Rich, Bernard Maddoff, etc. are exactly what He was referring to. When people like Jay Rockefeller or George Soros or Barbara Boxers', bank accounts, people who act to force their own agendas on the rest of us, are reduced to my level, then I will consider their opinions. That is not saying that one cannot accumulate wealth, it is saying that having done so you shut up and commit to your own charitable sacrifice, not that of others.

It is not a difficult message to understand; charity is NOT redistributing other people's money. In Kenneth Clark's amazingly insightful masterpiece "Civilisation," he explicitly makes the observation, in that episode relevant to the rise of Dutch mercantilism, that once wealth is acquired for some unexplained reason men want to go on to acquire power over others. That is the despicable nature of those cited. And America is in the middle of that, the CFR, the Rockefellers, the avaricious Jews, virtually all the US Senators.

For your information this elitism is essentially Feudalism. And in this supposed Republic it is only the intelligence and revelation of the common voter that will defeat it.

Johnny Suntrade

12 posted on 01/25/2011 7:25:48 AM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

I’d a loved him, Ida hated him.


13 posted on 01/25/2011 7:26:03 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: SeekAndFind

Alas, they were all part of the ruling oligarchy—or became part—of these characters . . . deliberately amassing and monopolizing wealth in order to establish the Biblical satanic global communist/socialist/monopolistic bastardized capitalist government.

In their own words:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2130557/posts?page=129#129

Innovations etc. have been wonderful for the working and middle class in many ways.

Yet, a lot of the time, the oligarchy has just used the added wealth and centralized structures to further enslave and control . . . and their enslavements and controls waiting in the wings are orders of magnitude worse.

The implanable ID chip is now reportedly down to the size of a pencil point dot on a paper . . . and to be injected with the next REQUIRED flu vaccination.


14 posted on 01/25/2011 7:30:24 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Red Badger

TRAITOROUS BUSTARD AND JR STOOGE.


15 posted on 01/25/2011 7:31:22 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Red Badger

Anyone who thinks Ford was in charge

is ignorant.


16 posted on 01/25/2011 7:32:50 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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INDEED. I don’t know about 100% of such groups but the vast majority, for sure.

and a lot else and worse of the black ops sorts of stuff.


17 posted on 01/25/2011 7:33:46 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

ONE of our biggest undoings.

Allowing the FEd and the Congress to get away with treason vs Constitutional government are both worse.

Congress critters have not cared a flip about their constituents for decades.


18 posted on 01/25/2011 7:35:29 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Well, not 100%, some groups are new, some groups are small.

:)

As to the other stuff, don’t get me started....


19 posted on 01/25/2011 7:37:27 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: Red Badger

When I die, I want to go out like Nelson Rockefeller, with a smile on my face...not like Megan Marshack, screaming, crying and gasping for breath.


20 posted on 01/25/2011 7:40:00 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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