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America: Only Two More Years?
www.thetrumpet.com ^ | From the February 2011 Trumpet Print Edition | By Robert Morley

Posted on 01/19/2011 10:41:14 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: sam_paine

” If you default on your mortgage, then the banks convert their liens to ownership (robo-forclosure was just practice!)

If the banks default then their creditors may end up owning your house.

If they want you out, then they call the local Sheriff and his deputies walk you out into the street.”

laws on this work both ways, most places with homes built (communities) have ordnances on keeping the property up

banks are struggeling big already in that department


21 posted on 01/20/2011 2:27:20 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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BTW, there is no money in working for banks to clean them up either


22 posted on 01/20/2011 2:37:25 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Red Badger

bump


23 posted on 01/20/2011 3:03:08 AM PST by misanthrope (Liberals just plain suck!!)
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To: CommieCutter
How are you going to pay the Sheriff if the currency is worthless?

Power is half of "money and power!"

    Sheriff has a car
    Sheriff/county has emergency powers to req necessities, like gas
    Ok, he's mobile. He protects some people, so the local cafe feeds him, he makes sure they get coffee from the grocery shipments before they come in. Etc.
Consider Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his "protection posse" he announced today. Now consider the Feds are in shambles, the cities are islands of dysfunction, and the only safe places are out in the country. There are 3,000 counties in the USA and that's the only true functioning law enforcement left.

It's a long way till things would get that bad, but my point is that the Sheriff's dollars are "worth" more than your dollars or mine. Understand?

24 posted on 01/20/2011 5:52:13 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Who’s going to work in the local cafe?

What grocery shipments? Who’s going to be in business? There will be riots.

However, I get the power thing, I do.


25 posted on 01/20/2011 3:38:29 PM PST by CommieCutter (I'll get an internet ID when Obama shows his birth certificate.)
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Who’s going to work in the local cafe?

People who work for the people in power.

What grocery shipments?

To and from the people in power.

Who’s going to be in business?

See above. There will be riots.

By the people not in power. The food/supply convoys will be re-routed. There's nothing you describe that hasn't been seen before...in Haiti, or in New Orleans....or in Waco.

It's just a matter of who will come out on top.

So when you hear people saying "ha! I've planned! I have MRE's and generators and lots of ammo." FMCDH people on this site.

Ask them how much "real power" they have stored. Connections. When the convoy comes by, will the people in power (1) pass them by in peace, (2) stop and share from the convoy, or (3) stop and TAKE, and add their hoard to the convoy.

Free Republic is ironically a collection of the LEAST PREPARED for post-apocolyptic society (especially those who TYPE the loudest), because we are ANONYMOUS, geographically ISOLATED, and as soon as the power/website goes down, totally CUT-OFF unless you have a group fall-back arranged with neighbors.

They say all politics is local. Well, All survival is local, and groups will do better than individuals. And if it's roving gangs against single-family defenses, the gangs win. If not today, then tomorrow, or tomorrow night at 3AM and another wave at 6AM and 11...you still awake? Your wife is hit and bleeding to death, you still shooting?

Read "Lucifer's Hammer."

Best realistic description of what really happens short and long-term to society after catastrophe. It will really make you reconsider your assumptions.

26 posted on 01/21/2011 9:11:09 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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I’m just asking questions; this is why my previous post said my questions weren’t rhetorical.

Thanks for you reply and insight.


27 posted on 01/21/2011 2:03:21 PM PST by CommieCutter (I'll get an internet ID when Obama shows his birth certificate.)
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To: sam_paine

I see what you’re saying. This sounds identical to the events during Stalin’s reign.


28 posted on 01/21/2011 2:04:40 PM PST by CommieCutter (I'll get an internet ID when Obama shows his birth certificate.)
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I really recommend “Lucifer’s Hammer” Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle.

For two reasons. It describes how bad things might get, but it also ends on an optimistic high-note that gives hope, too! (And not that hopeychangey kind of hope!)

I also read some of Fernando “Ferfal” Aguirre’s blogs about the Argentina collapse after that, and surprisingly, it’s so simple.

It’s how you would act in Tijuana right now. Don’t look rich. Don’t act like a tourist. Simple stuff gets you such a long way.


29 posted on 01/21/2011 2:16:14 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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It’s kind of strange...I thought of this exact scenario within my own neighborhood. There’s the group of people that are in their own click and it’s a decent amount...

I could see what you’re saying playing out.


30 posted on 01/21/2011 4:05:58 PM PST by CommieCutter (I'll get an internet ID when Obama shows his birth certificate.)
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