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Congress Overturns Ban of Gays Serving Openly, Sends Bill to Obama's Desk
Fox News ^ | Dec. 18, 2010

Posted on 12/18/2010 12:48:49 PM PST by Jess Kitting

Edited on 12/18/2010 1:10:23 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- In a landmark vote, the Senate on Saturday ended the Clinton-era ban on gays serving openly in the military, marking a major triumph for President Obama, liberals and the gay community.

The final vote to end the Pentagon's 1993 "don't ask, don't tell" policy was 65-31, drawing support from eight Republicans.

The bill now goes to the White House for Obama's signature. He is expected to sign the bill into law next week, a senior White House aide told Fox News.


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To: Jess Kitting

Famous Quote from Samuel Adams

“If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

Quote by: Samuel Adams
(1722-1803), was known as the “Father of the American Revolution.”


361 posted on 12/18/2010 6:23:51 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: TCH
No, that's not the way. I understand the frustration, but we're winning, not losing.

The way to go is to get trained: http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/training/

Then apply what you've learned to winning elections on the local, state and federal level. Repeat this over and over again across generations.

Think about it. The Left had the Congress and the Presidency for two straight years. What have they accomplished?

They hold our kid's minds hostage in government schools and still our country remains center right.

The hold the MSM and still our voices are heard.

We're winning. They're losing and they've given it their best shot. Obama’s the most radical Dem President since Carter. He's a failure and America, not just America, but the worlds, sees it.

We're winning. We need to do it better and faster, yes.

Here's how: http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/training/

362 posted on 12/18/2010 6:24:57 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: GeronL
bye bye effective fighting force

Just another of many step by the Kenyan to destroy America. He is NOT stupid or clueless like so many of the talkers on radio keep repeating. He knows exactly where this course of action will take this once mighty country. THE KENYAN IS ALL ABOUT "TRNSFORMING" AMERICA. The hidden side effects of this ruling will not become apparent in one fell swoop, and he knows it and his puppet master knows it all too well. THIS IS A WELL PLANNED MASSIVE ATTACK ON AMERICA BY THE FIFTH COLUMN. What percentage of Americans are homos? So we change the mightiest fighting force on the globe to make this tiny little screaming bunch of gays happy?? And make everyone else miserable? I don't call that a Representative Republic. Too many people vote for this crap just like they voted for the Kenyan - GUILT. This guilt is the result of Political Correctness gone insane. The gay community is not discriminated against - a gay has the same rights as everyone does to marry ONE person of the opposite sex. AND I certainly can find no Constitutional sectoin that says GAYS have a right to join the military.
363 posted on 12/18/2010 6:27:15 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: BenLurkin

Who is most responsible? Is it GWB or the American people? I say GWB because he failed repeatedly to “lead” the sheeple, who aren’t smart enough to take action on their own. The American people lack the know-how for self-government; that’s why they will have a tyrant, maybe even one of their choice.


364 posted on 12/18/2010 6:28:59 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: rolling_stone

The Church kept them out for a long time, and it was really only in the 1970s (after the Vatican II debacle and the destruction of orthodoxy and authority in the 60s) that gays got into the seminary in large numbers - and those closeted gays who were in already in the Church suddenly felt that they could - er - express themselves.

It has taken the Church more than 40 years to even begin to get a grip on this, and now most of that crop is aging out, already dead of AIDS, or in jail.

Catholic teaching says that homosexual inclinations are not the sin, but homosexual behavior (not to mention self-identifying as “gay,” which means a person thinks that the most important thing about them is that they want to have sexual relations with persons of the same sex) is sinful.

One of the reasons the Church was so strict on this is that in same sex environments (monasteries and convents), a group of gay persons would inevitably form a little group to protect and promote each other, and even aside from their personal sin, this would be disastrous for the discipline and life of the entire community.

And this is the same in the military, which while it is no longer only male, is a closed environment where people depend on a neutral and not personally involved command structure and environment to be effective. There is absolutely nothing good that can come of the repeal of DADT.


365 posted on 12/18/2010 6:28:59 PM PST by livius
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To: TCH

Famous Quote from Samuel Adams

“If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

Quote by: Samuel Adams
(1722-1803), was known as the “Father of the American Revolution.”


366 posted on 12/18/2010 6:29:16 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: DakotaRed
Nothing matters but appeasement of Gays who continue to force acceptance of their lifestyle choice upon others. God Bless the USA? No, God Help the USA!

Agree with that. This is only the beginning - all sorts of perversion are now going to be forced on us, they will see this as a huge acceptance of their lifestyle. They will immediately start pushing for things you cannot even imagine, and certainly would not have even been spoken about in polite company even two decades ago. God is NOT going to save this nation IMHO. We will see, but my prayers about removing the Kenyan have ceased - there is a plan that obviously I am not privy to.
367 posted on 12/18/2010 6:32:24 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red Dog #1

Of course we will not hear of the problems. Hear anything about the move of females to combat? Or the number of pregnancies on Carriers? How many female fliers are simply not qualified? How many female soldiers are unable to pass a simple PT course unless the rules are bent?


368 posted on 12/18/2010 6:34:23 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: TCH

Dr. Carle Zimmerman in 1947 wrote a book called Family and Civilization. He studies the decline of several civilizations and empires. He discovered eight patterns of domestic behavior that signaled the decline of a civilization:

1. The breakdown of marriage and rise of divorce.

2. The loss of the traditional meaning of the marriage ceremony.

3. The rise of Feminism.

4. Increased public disrespect for parents and authority in general.

5. Acceleration of juvenile delinquency, promiscuity and rebellion.

6. Refusal of people with traditional marriages to accept their family responsibilities.

7. A growing desire for and acceptance of adultery.

8. Increasing interest in and spread of sexual perversions (homosexuality) and sex-related crimes.


369 posted on 12/18/2010 6:35:05 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: matt1234
On CSPAN2, the banner read something like "The Pentagon and President must certify that combat readiness will not be diminished."

Kinda like the Homeland Security must certify the border is secure before amnesty will be granted? Seems like that was one of GWB's plans in the 2006-07 great rush to "Comprehensive Reform".

Gates would certify in a hear beat just like Crappy Nappy would certify - IF THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR JOBS UNDER THE KENYAN USURPER, DESTROYER OF AMERICA.
370 posted on 12/18/2010 6:36:32 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: deks

So the government can become completely perverted, the Constitution flushed down the crapper, and the people turned into servile slaves of a corrupt state... BUT, as long as “the government” still wears the moniker “United States” ... well then, hot damn, it’s just peach with you!

We could have Adolph Hitler, reincarnated and running the show... and you’d probably be happy with it. We pretty much have that now... BUT hey, don’t sweat it pal... cause FR will forbid that we should notice and call for someone’s head, according to your myopic view!

Get’s your head out of that dark wet place, and realize that you have LOST your “government” ... it was sacked, “overthrown.” and made burnt toast long ago—and that outcome was made certain specifically because of individuals like yourself, who hide behind civil niceties... even while the enemy is kicking the living crap out of you.

So do not quote civilities to me! This “government” is so far gone to imply an offense is made by any who suggest it be “overthrown.” The “government” no longer exists in any form that its framers would recognize! The irony is that they would be the first screaming for military intervention at this point... BY WE THE PEOPLE... and just who makes up our military forces, if not WE THE PEOPLE?

THE EXACT REASON WHY THE FOUNDERS GAVE US THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS BEING PLAYED OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR VERY EYES... But YOU cannot see it—because YOU do not WANT to see it.

The founders knew this day would come, when we the people would desperately require the principle purpose of the Second Amendment be put into practice. So get a clue.


371 posted on 12/18/2010 6:43:04 PM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: panthermom

It’s a problem. One of the things that gays always claimed is that being “normalized” would mean that they wouldn’t be engaging in all the other things that go alongside (promiscuity, drugs, etc.).

My own experience has been that most gay people, either male or female, have some sort of family or childhood problem that has made it very difficult for them to really grow up and relate to members of the other sex (or even their own). Some of them probably do grow up eventually, and some of them probably are already involved in the “gay lifestyle” and suddenly realize they want more out of life and try to make the best of the place where they find themselves at that time.

But one of the worst things society can do, IMHO, is create a sort of special protected category for them. It only promotes the dysfunctionality, justifies people who really are predators (who may not be the majority, but undeniably are a presence in the gay crowd), does nothing to protect or help people who have sort of wandered into it or are just misfits in one way or another and have picked that particular way of expressing it...and creates a powerful amount of pressure within the gay crowd itself.

Also, I hate the fact that homosexual behavior is now portrayed not only as normal but even as preferable among young people. Kids and teenagers are confused anyway, but when you have folks (including parents) encouraging homosexual behavior and in fact even announcing the fact that they think their prepubescent child is gay or sending young teenagers to special schools for “gay children,” you have a society that is doing everything possible to destroy its own children.


372 posted on 12/18/2010 6:43:37 PM PST by livius
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To: SteamShovel
The RATS are burning down the house like Saddam Hussein did the oil fields on their way out.

The scorched earth position of the scorned Congresscritters - "I'LL SHOW YOU TO VOTE ME OUT OF OFFICE."
373 posted on 12/18/2010 6:44:44 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: TomasUSMC

Orrin G. Hatch must be afraid of 2012, or he would have voted yes on this too.


374 posted on 12/18/2010 6:45:52 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Well then The straight servicemen need to claim sexual harassment at every sideways glance or unseemly overt act that these deviants that are going to be so proudly displaying of their sexuality that type of response will send them all running right back in the closet. Nobody takes the Straight peoples views into consideration regarding this issue what if you had to rack across from an openly gay person in the berthing compartments onboard a ship? You know the people that advocate for this don’t really have any idea what they are asking for...


375 posted on 12/18/2010 6:48:17 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: TomasUSMC

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So these eight are guilty of loving an abomination. Has Palin spoken out on this yet?....especially since both Alaskan Senators voted for sodomy.”

The core of the RINO hit list. For the next time they are up for election, of course.


376 posted on 12/18/2010 6:56:07 PM PST by jessduntno (Care what the Left thinks of you? "Their opinion of me and my policies is irrelevant." - Dick Cheney)
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To: Terry Mross

Exactly that is why we need to see the law... Before DADT you were not allowed to serve in the military if you were gay and you were admin discharged if you came out because you were asked. The DADT was to conform to allow closeted members the ability to never fear being asked if you were gay... i.e., I on a security clearance form it used to ask if you were homosexual or every practiced that type of sex if you said yes you could not get the clearance after DADT they took the question off same with the entry questions that the recruiter asked. they just stopped asking...

Nobody ever said you could volunteer the information that may be the issue here... The sodomy is still against the UCMJ. Gay sex is sodomy.


377 posted on 12/18/2010 6:56:17 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I wonder if Obama will be dedicating this signing ceremony to his friend Larry Saintclair


378 posted on 12/18/2010 7:02:02 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

I acknowledge your point; however, if we do not return discipline to this nation, then we are beyond help. Unfortunately, out of the three institutions capable of providing that discipline—the Church, the Family, and the Military... up to now, only the Military was not compromised.


379 posted on 12/18/2010 7:06:16 PM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: trumandogz

The present civilian “government” CAN AND DOES do that now.


380 posted on 12/18/2010 7:16:50 PM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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