[Nervous Tick]

>> an elite environmental ethos that restricts commerce and productivity without curbing consumption

LOL! I never thought about it that way but VDH is exactly right. For all their enviro-zeal, big-city Californians are among the most materialistic folks I have ever known. They buy (and eventually discard) more “stuff” than people just about anywhere else.

[Ron C.]

Hey... have you been to a 'second-hand' store lately. You can find brand new things there (perhaps worn once or twice) for peanuts.

The guy who owns one of them told me that he HAS to price stuff so low - to 'get it out of here' - because he can't process whats coming through the back door unless most of the stuff IN THE STORE 'moves out today or tomorrow' otherwise he will be overwhelmed within 48 hours!

Sadly, the majority of the people buying are Mexicans that can't speak English - the majority of those donating are white Americans.