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Mr. Hanson also said:

In two supermarkets 50 miles apart, I was the only one in line who did not pay with a social-service plastic card (gone are the days when “food stamps” were embarrassing bulky coupons). But I did not see any relationship between the use of the card and poverty as we once knew it: The electrical appurtenances owned by the user and the car into which the groceries were loaded were indistinguishable from those of the upper middle class.

1 posted on 12/17/2010 2:54:03 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

California is doomed: Thread #9872


2 posted on 12/17/2010 2:55:35 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Ron C.

I am glad you posted this. I heard his interview on John and Ken.


3 posted on 12/17/2010 2:59:04 PM PST by ColdOne (:*))) MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU!!!!!)
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To: Ron C.

California is the garbage collection of the west. Nothing left here but crap.


5 posted on 12/17/2010 3:00:19 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Ron C.

>> an elite environmental ethos that restricts commerce and productivity without curbing consumption

LOL! I never thought about it that way but VDH is exactly right. For all their enviro-zeal, big-city Californians are among the most materialistic folks I have ever known. They buy (and eventually discard) more “stuff” than people just about anywhere else.


7 posted on 12/17/2010 3:03:57 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Ron C.

Have you read VDH’s 2004 book entitled “Mexifornia”?

Quite interesting.


8 posted on 12/17/2010 3:04:21 PM PST by MplsSteve (Governor Mark Dayton? That's so incredibly alarming, don't you think?)
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To: Admin Moderator
Restored - noting this has been posted twice prior. Please see the following links - neither of which now exist in a sidebar entry today.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2643152/posts

and:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2644244/posts

Also - listen to Victor Davis Hanson interview done today on the John and Ken show - for much more on the topic of much of California turning into a third-world dump.

Listen here

10 posted on 12/17/2010 4:16:04 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Jim Robinson; goldstategop; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; ...

I am so glad that I got out while the getting was good.


11 posted on 12/17/2010 4:26:27 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Ron C.

There is really not a time bomb ticking with this invasion as long as socialists run California (into a third world utopia just like home) and American-Americans do not have the power to influence anything inside the boundries of socialism and multicultural foreign ghetto cultures.

The wealthy limo liberals who created the mess will be in walled off heavily guarded communities on the coast like the wealthy live in Mexico. They will get their health care and educations over the border. Everyone will get what they want and those who don’t want to live in a foreign ghetto will move. California has tipped.


21 posted on 12/17/2010 6:15:08 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Ron C.
There is a typo in Mr. Hanson's article. His bike rides were in southeastern Fresno County. There are few paved roads in southwestern Fresno County.

Mr. Hanson's observations are accurate and repeatable.

One anecdote: Of all the incorporated municipalities in southeastern Fresno County, the one town with the huevos to proclaim "Merry Christmas" on the festive municipal banners gracing its light poles is Parlier.

22 posted on 12/17/2010 7:00:50 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: ExTexasRedhead; Yaelle; Nachum; LA Conservative; SoCalPol; NormsRevenge; goldstategop; Mr. Mojo; ...
Ping!

It's obvious, but unsaid in the posted article, that the major cause of all the ills Hansen observes is the failure of federal law enforcement against illegal immigration.

28 posted on 12/18/2010 9:05:49 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Ron C.; Pelham; stainlessbanner
I also drove my car over to the coast to work, on various routes through towns like San Joaquin, Mendota, and Firebaugh. And near my home I have been driving, shopping, and touring by intent the rather segregated and impoverished areas of Caruthers, Fowler, Laton, Orange Cove, Parlier, and Selma.

But many here insist there is no segregation outside the South...shucks...Vic, you done gone and ruined it for me.

Sad California...you were my dream as a lad in Leave it to Beaver land....all the cool people, blonde girls, surfing, scenery, San Fran, mountians, Death Valley Days...ya'll had it all.....I am truly sorry

But don't fret...they are ruining here too as fast as they can...turning little minds into mush with the same guilt that paved the way to kill your once grand way of life.

30 posted on 12/18/2010 9:35:44 AM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: Ron C.

BUMP BACK TO THE TOP FOR THIS IMPORTANT ESSAY.
California is probably a harbinger of what’s coming to the rest of this nation.
Hanson’s piece begs a most important question: DOES ANYONE IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY GIVE A DAMN??


35 posted on 03/14/2011 9:52:31 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: Ron C.

BUMP BACK TO THE TOP FOR THIS IMPORTANT ESSAY.
California is probably a harbinger of what’s coming to the rest of this nation.
Hanson’s piece begs a most important question: DOES ANYONE IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY GIVE A DAMN??


36 posted on 03/14/2011 9:52:48 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: Ron C.

BUMP BACK TO THE TOP FOR THIS IMPORTANT ESSAY.
California is probably a harbinger of what’s coming to the rest of this nation.
Hanson’s piece begs a most important question: DOES ANYONE IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY GIVE A DAMN??


37 posted on 03/14/2011 9:52:48 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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