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To: butterdezillion
Bills do not stay in limbo after being passed by Congress. The Constitution is fairly explicit with a 10 day time frame for action on a bill by the President. If Congress remains in session and he does not sign it, then it becomes law after 10 days. If Congress adjourns within the 10 day time period and the President does not sign it, then it is considered vetoed. I am not aware of any cases that define “presentment” but I am confident that it would be interpreted as to when then bill is sent from the Capitol to the White House. It seems very inconsistent for you to argue that Lakin did not have to obey his orders because of Obama’s alleged ineligibility to hold office, yet you and your family accept the monetary benefits of the legislation signed into law by Obama.
678 posted on 12/18/2010 1:17:50 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: TNTNT

You want me to initiate a major blow-up with my husband to make sure we pay more taxes than the Congress and alleged POTUS say we should?

Maybe it would be a way to get standing. Sue for the chance to pay more taxes. Somehow I don’t think the government would fight me on that.

If you read what I said, I said that you were probably right - that considering Obama’s ineligibility and the pocket veto that would cause, the Bush tax cuts would Constitutionally expire as of Jan 1st. But that the decisions regarding our taxes are made by my husband, and he is not cool with doing anything to buck a government where Janet Napolitano has almost certainly already labeled me a domestic terrorist because I favor limited government.

My husband really doesn’t give a darn about Lt Col Lakin, except that he knows I care about it. He really doesn’t give a darn whether Biden is the one Constitutionally authorized to act as POTUS. He believes what I’ve said about it is true, but he mostly just wants to “cooperate and graduate”. To him, what I’m doing is a waste of time that could be spent on spiritual things. Or cleaning house. Considering that he thinks I’m wasting my time, he’s pretty patient with me, but he’s not going to put the family on the line in any way for the sake of any of this.

He’s the one figuring the taxes, and to him there is no inconsistency. He expects the government to be corrupt, and he doesn’t much care as long as our family is OK and he can keep preaching. He grew up in an emotionally abusive situation and learned that little guys who don’t cooperate experience bad things so your best bet is to appease the bullies and mind your own business.

Aside from grabbing the Turbo Tax for myself and totally disrespecting him, I have very little choice in the matter. Call me a wimp or unprincipled if you like, but he has to live with his conscience just as I have to live with mine, and his conscience won’t allow him to sacrifice either his family or his ministry in order to confront a perpetually-corrupt government.


689 posted on 12/18/2010 8:18:12 PM PST by butterdezillion
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