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'Birther' reverses course, says he would deploy [Terrence Lakin]
KSRO Radio, AP ^ | 12/15/2010 | AP

Posted on 12/15/2010 4:47:28 PM PST by iowamark

An Army doctor who disobeyed orders to deploy to Afghanistan because he questioned President Barack Obama's eligibility for office told a jury he was wrong to do so and would now deploy if he could.

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin of Greeley, Colo., was speaking during a court martial hearing Wednesday.

Earlier, the jury convicted Lakin of missing a flight that would have gotten him to Fort Campbell, Ky., for his eventual deployment, and Lakin has already pleaded guilty to another charge against him. Lakin gave his statement to the jury before the members decide his eventual punishment.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: certifigate; faraj; jensen; lakin; naturalborncitizen; nealpuckett; pauljensen; puckett; terrencelakin
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
An argument made at that time: "It is not up to individual soldiers to decide what is Constitutional and what is not. Lawful and unlawful orders are defined for us by the Constitution, the President . . . ."

The first part of that statement is correct. The second part is not. An order requiring the performance of a normal, military duty is presumed lawful and is disobeyed at the peril of the person receiving it. The only exception to that is an order requiring the performance of an obviously illegal act - mass murder for example. The question of whether an order is legal or illegal is a matter for a military judge to determine and not an individual.

21 posted on 12/15/2010 5:27:25 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: jackibutterfly
Could be, maybe, Lt. Col. Lakin was trying to make a point - which was the above - and his point was made - to show what kind of "man" obama is. He doesn't need to go any further.

It's an expensive point to make. He's thrown away his pension, ended his career, and is probably going to do some prison time. I hope his point was worth it to him and his family.

22 posted on 12/15/2010 5:29:14 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: The Man
I could be wrong but I don’t think he will be serving a long sentence. I hope his new lawyer is able to undo the damage as much as possible that his previous team had let him inflict upon himself.

If he gets the maximum he's looking at 3 1/2 years. Even if he gets that I doubt he'll serve more than half of it.

23 posted on 12/15/2010 5:30:19 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Hogwash!


24 posted on 12/15/2010 5:30:53 PM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: iowamark

He deserves what’s coming to him, but I feel a little sorry for the guy. I understand wanting to take a principled stand, but I think he got some really lousy coaching and encouragement from people who were just blind to the real issues he would face. He was stupid for fall for it. Now he sees it.


25 posted on 12/15/2010 5:31:40 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Yet_Again
It is probably their intention to lock him up for a very very long time. He may think this will keep him from going to prison for life.

The maximum prison sentence he faces is 3 years.

26 posted on 12/15/2010 5:31:40 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

As a doctor, he’ll probably spend most of that time working in the prison clinic. He should anyway... no sense putting his career to waste.


27 posted on 12/15/2010 5:33:53 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: verity
Although much too late, Lakin finally realizes he jumped on his reproductive appendage with both feet.

What's sad is that such a conclusion was as predictable as the sun rising from the east and the moment Lakin made his intentions known, many here predicted exactly this conclusion. Lakin's own friends, family and coworkers urged him to get his head examined! And on the other side, birthers with nothing to lose cheered him on every step of the way.

Lakin ignored the advice from those who cared about him while embracing the "expert" legal opinions posted by birthers on internet blogs.

And today Lt. Col Lakin is a broken man who will likely tomorrow lose both his freedom and his hard-earned pension, an outcome predicted months ago by many on this forum who would be denigrated as "O-bots" and trolls by the very people promoting the half-baked conspiracies and dubious legal strategies that brought ruin to Lakin.

28 posted on 12/15/2010 5:34:13 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
"What's sad is that such a conclusion was as predictable ..."

Every word you say is true. I am still perplexed why an educated man who is seemingly intelligent and with that much service time could be so gullible as to become a pawn.

29 posted on 12/15/2010 5:47:37 PM PST by verity
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To: iowamark; All
This case was a shameful railroad operation. The presiding judge (O-6) REFUSED to allow a discovery process, refused to allow ANY testimony or other evidence on behalf of the defendant, AND refused to allow retired USAF Lt Gen McInerny to testify about an officer's sworn duty to uphold the constitution and verify orders are lawful!

The judge had the the AUDACITY to tell a superior officer who held GENERAL COURTS-MARTIAL AUTHORITY that he didn't understand the UCMJ well enough to appear!!!!!

This was something we fought about 2 centuries ago!!!

30 posted on 12/15/2010 5:54:39 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's called CHRISTmas! Any questions??)
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To: gimme1ibertee

It amazing how a few words like “reverse course or get 20 years hard labor” has on someone who suddenly realizes that the “jury” ‘had convicted him before the case started. Never play against a stacked deck.


31 posted on 12/15/2010 6:02:42 PM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: Non-Sequitur
“A tad late for that now. “

When in Rome, do as the Romans.

When ruled by a Kenyan Muslim, Salute the Kenyan Muslim.

A good lesson for the rest of the troops to learn before Hussein orders them to train their guns on us.

32 posted on 12/15/2010 6:12:03 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“If he gets the maximum he’s looking at 3 1/2 years. Even if he gets that I doubt he’ll serve more than half of it.”

He should serve at least 10. Having the audacity to confront a Communist Kenyan dictator .... most would rot in jail for a life time for that. He should get at least 10. Add to that he’s a white male, he’s damn lucky he’s not in the gallows.


33 posted on 12/15/2010 6:22:17 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: Ramius

I feel sorry for the guy. Someone from the eligibility movement probably sold him a bill of goods and got him into this mess. I just hope he doesn’t have to do time. What a waste. This issue needs to be decided by the SCOTUS or the Congress.

I blame Congress for this whole situation. They should have challenged Obama’s credentials when McCain was having to submit his documents.

If Lakin gets 3.5 years he may still be there when Barry arrives to start his sentence for crimes agains’t the state.


34 posted on 12/15/2010 6:47:56 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: verity
” .... so gullible as to become a pawn.”

He saw it as a slam dunk. Who the hell in their right mind thinks he's qualified now? No one. He can't produce an American BC, never has, never will, because he never had one. The man is 50 years old, and not one person alive can say they have seen it. Obama could come out tomorrow and show pictures of himself being born in Kenya, and the press would fawn over it and the Army brass would smile. Hell, his wife has already stated that Kenya is his home country. Lakin failed to understand that the constitution is meaningless to these people.

35 posted on 12/15/2010 6:51:09 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: Drew68
Lakin is like the young boy who jumps from the trench and runs straight into fire and whips the grenade at the enemy, after being pinned down for hours. Everyone in the trench is hoping he hits his mark, but no one wants to die on that field. And when that boy who charged the field is shot down, and cries for his mother, some of the guys in the trench will shake their heads and call him a stupid bastard. It takes all kinds.
36 posted on 12/15/2010 7:03:08 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: Drew68

Hey drew, you sure sound pleased with yourself.I wonder why that is.


37 posted on 12/15/2010 7:20:00 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

We may have to do it again.


38 posted on 12/15/2010 7:28:15 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: PA-RIVER

So true.


39 posted on 12/15/2010 7:30:29 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
Drew doesn't give a rats ass if a Kenyan born Citizen sits in the oval office, and he's entitled to think that way.

In fact, you could end up in Leavenworth for some reeducation if you don't.

40 posted on 12/15/2010 7:35:18 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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