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Tea Party Nation President: Only Allowing Property Owners To Vote “Makes A Lot Of Sense”
Mediaite ^ | December 1, 2010 | Matt Schneider

Posted on 12/01/2010 1:48:10 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

Tea Party Nation President Judson Phillips recently hosted a radio program where he declared that Americans who do not own property have less of a stake in the community and suggested, in the past, it made sense to deprive such citizens of the right to vote. The tone-deaf statement is not significant because it represents the view of the Tea Party at large (it doesn’t), but is important because it evidences a serious problem for the movement: without a formal hierarchy, various “leaders” associated with the Tea Party can quickly damage the larger brand with their absurd comments.

The Tea Party Nation is one of the most prominent organizations in the Tea Party movement, having sponsored the National Tea Party Convention last February that was criticized for its $550 attendance fee and where Sarah Palin was paid $100,000 to speak. Thus the influence Phillips has is legitimate, yet like other prominent Tea Party members before him who ended up in hot water for indefensible statements, Phillips offensively opines on an issue with which no rational person is concerned.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: propertyowners; teaparty
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1 posted on 12/01/2010 1:48:13 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Good luck with that.
2 posted on 12/01/2010 1:48:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Oh great.

A crazy statement that the Regime Media will focus on totally.


3 posted on 12/01/2010 1:50:07 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
It made sense to our Founders... but would never pass in this quasi communist state that we live in today.

LLS

4 posted on 12/01/2010 1:50:38 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Didn’t the Founding Fathers have a problem with that policy?


5 posted on 12/01/2010 1:50:47 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Limiting the vote to stakeholders is a very good idea which does need to be revisited. But instead of property owners, why not instead limit it to net taxpayers who are not on any form of government assistance? There are many high income taxpayers who rent their primary residences, why should they be denied suffrage when they pay a large share of the bills?

The other problem with allowing only property owners to vote is it gives more of a voice to those rich liberals who want everyone to pay more in taxes because it tends to screw everyone else but themselves.

6 posted on 12/01/2010 1:51:34 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
What about conservatives who rent or conservative seniors who live in retirement villages where they rent???

Many active military people rent/do not own property.

People realy need to think this stuff through before they speak...

7 posted on 12/01/2010 1:52:26 PM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: LibLieSlayer
It made sense to our Founders... but would never pass in this quasi communist state that we live in today.

The Founding Fathers also never imagined that they would beget a country in which 1/3 of the adult population does no work and nearly 1/2 of the population pays no tax, but people who match said description are allowed to vote.

8 posted on 12/01/2010 1:53:43 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Only property owners should be allowed to vote in elections that raise property taxes...for sure!


9 posted on 12/01/2010 1:53:48 PM PST by lonestar
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This statement isn’t as bad as it sounds. He is inarticulately expressing a desire that people who vote have to have a stake in the game to prevent people from voting themselves free stuff on the backs of the “rich.” That is the curse of democracy and why democracies ultimately fall. We are on course for that.


10 posted on 12/01/2010 1:54:35 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: pnh102
"...limit it to net taxpayers..."

Exactly. Limit the vote to the Makers not the Takers.
11 posted on 12/01/2010 1:55:24 PM PST by Darteaus94025
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
various “leaders” associated with the Tea Party can quickly damage the larger brand with their absurd comments.

Voting on anything affecting tax rates that you don't pay is wrong. It is, in effect, theft.

Only tax payers should have the right to vote on anything that affects tax rates or budgets. Thats not absurd, its absurd to allow non-taxpayers decide budget questions.

12 posted on 12/01/2010 1:55:32 PM PST by marron
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I wouldn't have a problem with this approach at all. In fact, a very strong case can be made that this is exactly how an orderly democratic society MUST function.

The definition of "property" might have to be expanded to include other assets beyond the traditional land holdings that were used in the early days of this country to determine eligibility, but I have no problem with the general idea that only people with $X (whatever that number may be) in personal assets should be allowed to vote.

13 posted on 12/01/2010 1:55:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Probably not a good thing to sayon TV.

I don’t think the TEA Party Nation reflects the needs of most partiers.


14 posted on 12/01/2010 1:55:43 PM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

What’s the definition of property owner? Does having a time-share count? So, many young military men and women, who serve their country for many years so they don’t have property (unless inherited from their parents) cannot vote?


15 posted on 12/01/2010 1:56:11 PM PST by paudio (The differences between Clinton and 0bama? About a dozen of former Democratic Congressmen.)
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To: lonestar
Only property owners should be allowed to vote in elections that raise property taxes...for sure!

The fact that property taxes even exist negate the entire notion that property rights actually exist to begin with.

16 posted on 12/01/2010 1:56:18 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: camerongood210

Actually the states had their own policies on the matter. In some states they sold land extremely cheap to increase the number of land owners, in others you had to show that you had a certain ammount of money in your pocket when you voted.

I know a lot of good conservatives who don’t own their homes and only an idiot would want to cut them out of voting.


17 posted on 12/01/2010 1:56:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: hoyt-clagwell
Many active military people rent/do not own property.

That's a very interesting point. This was apparently never much of an issue back in the days before the U.S. had a massive standing military instead of relying primarily on state militias for its armed forces.

18 posted on 12/01/2010 1:57:57 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child
but I have no problem with the general idea that only people with $X (whatever that number may be) in personal assets should be allowed to vote.

You would be excluding much of the younger active duty military....

19 posted on 12/01/2010 1:58:11 PM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I would rather that only TAXPAYERS vote...those who don’t pay taxes should have NO INPUT into what is done with OTHERS’ MONEY!


20 posted on 12/01/2010 1:58:39 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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