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To: centurion316
Given your claimed credentials:
  1. 25 years as an active duty commissioned officer
  2. Prosecutor in Courts Martial
  3. Member Courts Martial Panels
  4. President of Boards and Courts Martial, the result of one of these reached the Supreme Court where the decision was affirmed.
  5. Commander multiple times exercising UCMJ authority
I should like to hear your opinion on the scenario I laid out in Post 236.

The complete silliness of your argument has already been demonstrated by the decisions of the Military Judge, the events of 14 Dec will confirm it. Even LTC Lakin’s civilian defense attorney agrees with the Military Judge, so I’m not exactly going out on a limb here.

Really. They've rendered verdict on a situation as I've proffered? What was their verdict?
Also, how is it silly for me to claim that the authority of an officer to command something comes from his commander, which comes from his commander, and so forth, until it reaches the President who gets his authority as Commander-in-Chief from the Constitution? I should love to see a cited military source that says otherwise, it would utterly obliterate my arguments as presented... if, on the other hand, what I have described is the chain of command then, should the president be unqualified, we have a situation in which no military order* is valid.

My logic here is correct which means that only a flawed assumption, such as that of how authority works in the military, would cause my conclusion to be incorrect; the above is an invitation for you to do so.

*Excepting the [explicit] order to follow the Constitution which, in the above case, is the only valid portion of the chain-of-command, no?

333 posted on 12/04/2010 4:57:05 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Sorry, but its absurd on its face which is why I chose not to comment.

Obama was elected by a majority of the voters in the 2008 election. That win secured for him a majority in the Electoral College and they cast their votes as pledged to elect Obama President. The Congress confirmed the vote of the Electoral College and he was sworn into office by the Chief Justice of the United States. Every Constitutional Officer of the United States, every member of Congress, and both major political parties have endorsed this outcome. You can’t get more legitimate than that.

Some clown in a uniform does not hold a Commission in the Armed Forces unless he really holds such a commission. Your argument is just silly.

If the speculation about Obama’s eligibility is to go anywhere, then someone needs to produce some evidence. None have. Now, I fully understand that the man has gone to great lengths to conceal parts of his early life and I have no doubt that if that information had been known to the American public he would not have been elected. But, I also doubt that he would have been eliminated on Constitutional grounds. He would have been eliminated by the voters who wanted nothing to do with his Marxist upbringing.

Lakin was talked into pulling a political stunt, and a hopeless political stunt at that. He’ll have to pay a price, but its of his own doing. Meanwhile, his friends, family, and publicity seeking advisors will walk away free and clear. He should be doing his duty treating wounded soldiers in Afghanistan, they are doing theirs’.


335 posted on 12/04/2010 5:11:43 PM PST by centurion316
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To: OneWingedShark; butterdezillion; Red Steel; Danae; mojitojoe; little jeremiah
FYI -- Ltc Lakin and family


336 posted on 12/04/2010 5:20:14 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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