Posted on 11/29/2010 7:37:16 AM PST by Elderberry
Re: “Obama lost his Kenyan citizenship in 1984”
Not so!
Under the new Kenyan constitution, Barack Obama is a citizen of Kenya, by birth and is eligible to be elected president of Kenya, whether he was born in Kenya or not.
The East African nation’s new constitution was officially published as a proposal May 6 and was ratified as published August 4 in a national referendum with 67 percent approval.
The newly ratified Kenyan constitution, Chapter 3, Section 14(1), entitled “Citizenship by birth,” reads: “A person is a citizen by birth if on the day of the person’s birth, whether or not the person is born in Kenya, either the mother or father of the person is a Kenyan citizen.” Upon Obama’s birth, Aug. 4, 1961, his father, Barack Obama Sr., was a Kenyan citizen, thereby conferring on his son Kenyan citizenship.
Chapter 3, Section 16 of the Kenyan Constitution specifies, “A citizen by birth does not lose citizenship by acquiring the citizenship of another country,” making clear that U.S. citizenship is not an impediment for Obama also being a Kenyan citizen. The constitution suggests that all Obama would need to do to make his Kenyan citizenship effective again is to apply for reinstatement.
Chapter 14, Section 14(5) reads, “A person who is a Kenyan citizen by birth and who, on the effective date, has ceased to be a Kenyan citizen because the person acquired citizenship of another country, is entitled on application to regain Kenyan citizenship.”
Unlike the U.S. Constitution, the Kenyan constitution does not require that a candidate for president be “a natural born citizen.” All that is required in Chapter 9, Part 2, Section 137(1)(a) to qualify to run for the presidency of Kenya is that a person be a citizen by birth, a qualification Obama meets because, at his birth, his father was a Kenyan citizen.
Chapter 9, Part 2, Section 137(1)(b) also requires that a presidential candidate be qualified to stand for election as a member of parliament.
Chapter 8, Part 2, Section 99(2)(c) requires that to qualify as a candidate for parliament, a person must only have been a citizen for the 10 years immediately preceding the date of the election.
Since Obama is a Kenyan citizen by birth under terms of the new Kenyan constitution, he qualifies to be a member of the Kenyan parliament now, a condition which then equally qualifies him to run for president of Kenya.
Even under the most stringent requirement, Obama would only need to reapply to Kenya to make sure his Kenyan citizenship is current. In the process, Obama would not need to renounce his U.S. citizenship, since the new Kenyan constitution allows Kenyan citizens to be dual citizens.
My point is simply what the ad states, and it is wrong. My point is that in trying to state an overall valid point, it is not good to screw up the simple factual details. It hurts your cause.
IMHO, when BHO, Jr. reached his majority, he had the choice of choosing British, Kenyan, Indonesian, or if he really were born in Hawaii, American Citizenship.
A Natural Born Citizen would have no such choice.
Name 1 SCOTUS case where a Writ of Certiorari was granted to a plaintiff with less standing than Kerchner?
The Constitution is the boss.
At least in the country I’ve known and loved, which is no more.
This was totally predictable. Does signal to me, though, that the reason for SCOTUS “evading” the issue wasn’t in order to have Republicans in control of Congress before deciding the issue. That pretty much leaves the Soros economic threats as the probable reason for evading it, which also explains the military, Congress, Hawaii DOH, federal and state law enforcement systems, and media evading it as well.
It’s a coup. Obama is the puppet of the Soros communist-Islamist cabal. Just watch and see if that doesn’t explain everything you observe.
It only takes four Justices to agree to grant cert and hear an appeal. That means, by default you are accusing Justices Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Kennedy and Scalia of also being puppets of the “Soros communist-Islamist cabal.”
There is no “coup” when 69 million voters support a candidate and when the Vice President counts and certifies that candidate’s electoral college votes without objection from any of 535 members of Congress and when that candidate is administered the Oath of Office by the Chief Justice of the United States.
As I have told you scores of times, the appropriate way to challenge Barack Obama’s eligibility is through the criminal courts not the civil courts. All that is needed is to convince a prosecuting attorney: either a district attorney, a US Attorney, a Special Counsel, or a state attorney general that there is probable cause of election fraud, forgery or felony fraud.
The “Obama is ineligible” movement has now failed in 86 attempts at civil lawsuits.
Every president who was challenged on unlawful actions was challenged via a grand jury investigation: Nixon and Watergate, Reagan and Iran-Contra, Bush 41 and the Savings and Loan crisis, Clinton and Whitewater, Lewinsky, Filegate, Vince Foster; and Bush 43 and CIA Leaks, Scooter Libby.
As I have told you scores of times, the appropriate way to challenge Barack Obama’s eligibility is through the criminal courts not the civil courts. All that is needed is to convince a prosecuting attorney: either a district attorney, a US Attorney, a Special Counsel, or a state attorney general that there is probable cause of election fraud, forgery or felony fraud.
That is absolutely correct.
http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320
” What is happening is, the precedent is being set that someone born with foreign citizenship, with allegiance owed from birth to a foreign country, is eligible to be the Commander in Chief of the armed forces. “
This is more than just dismantling the US Constitution, it’s the US giving up it’s sovereignty over to the United Nations.
87 posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 3:27:57 PM by American Constitutionalist
Yes, if BO is not legally removed, the result will be a UN takeover of the USA.
http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320
Thought first...Then action...The Spirit of Revolution.
Did Kerchner even present his psychiatric records to prove his emotional distress?
If Kerchner did not present his psychiatric records to the court, how did he expect any court to recognize that he had any damages at all?
How did he expect the Supreme Court of the United States of America to grant a Writ of Certiorari in a case where there was no proof of any damages at all?
” Yes, if BO is not legally removed, the result will be a UN takeover of the USA. “
In that case, that was the whole point of the whole coup.
Notice that there was a large amount of Obama’s campaign donations from overseas ?
Wonder how many politicians were paid to go along this planned coup ?
Our whole political system sold out America for 30 pieces of silver.
92 posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 3:42:43 PM by American Constitutionalist
I am afraid you are right. I can only hope there are a few honorable politicians, military men and judges left to undo the damage that BO has done to our Country.
Remember the photo of The Usurper with the Supremes at the time of the second swearing in? They were all laughing together.
The Supremes know he’s ineligible. O is untouchable, his skin color ensures that. He will someday be outed, and be known as the biggest scammer in the history of the world.
His original BC most likely outs him not only on birthplace but on religion which is islam. He has a lot of reasons to hide his records. All of them. They will not remain hidden forever.
Virtually every Jewish person in this country (or any country) has a choice under the 1950 Israeli law, Right of Return, to claim Israeli citizenship. Does that mean it's impossible for an American Jew to be a "natural born citizen", giving your definition?
:0) LOL
There’s a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
Hear how I rule. Of course not. They are Natural Born American Citizens who are being given the choice to accept the OFFER of citizenship from another country. It is a choice they need not accept, and since their parents were not Israeli ciizens, but American citizens at the time of their birth, they are Natural Born Citizens with an unexercised option that every American has: i.e., to leave. And like every Naural Born American Citizen, it they might even be able to come back and run for office.
The more interesting question is, since they do not have to renounce American Citizenship, would they be eligible to run if they accepted it and didn't leave?
Example 14,998 from the book, "Tough Cases." Get me The Dentist!
You would think that this alone would get the attention of Glenn Bech in stead of him putting down birthers.
Hey Glenn ? Obama’s birth certificate, Soros, the United Nations take over of the USA is all connected....
93 posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 3:48:03 PM by American Constitutionalist
The reluctance of “conservative” pundits to address BO’s fraudulent BC and citizenship records is baffling. The only thing that makes sense is that the repubs want a wounded BO around to run against in 2012.
The songster was a prophet...for the early 21st century.
There will be civil war.
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