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Leaking Siberian ice raises a tricky climate issue
Yahoo! via AP ^ | 11/22/2010 | ARTHUR MAX

Posted on 11/22/2010 10:26:50 AM PST by shove_it

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To: Red Badger
..methane — a greenhouse gas 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide

IOW, methane isn't a greenhouse gas at all since 23 times zero is zero......

21 posted on 11/22/2010 10:53:59 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: shove_it

Global Warming.... the scientists version of original sin. We are all guilty until redeemed by the Holy Left. Taxes and redistribution are the indulgences of the 21st century.

Buy yours now. But wait.... for only $19.95 (plus shipping and handling) you get xxxxx oops wrong scam. Sorry.


22 posted on 11/22/2010 10:55:46 AM PST by Random Access
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To: shove_it
gee...wonder if it has anything to do with the lousy way they handle nuclear cleanup. Does Chernobyl have anything to do with it? Does Russia glow in the dark?
23 posted on 11/22/2010 10:55:46 AM PST by IC Ken
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To: shove_it

OMG! It’s always something with these people!


24 posted on 11/22/2010 10:56:20 AM PST by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
THIS IS NOT NEW!!!

It is to those who have no sense of history, no understanding of chemistry and absolutely no understanding of climate science. These people remind me of a 5 year old who just discovered something they think is magical and want to tell everybody about it.....

25 posted on 11/22/2010 10:57:33 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: chickadee

You can go to many marshes, ponds and small lakes and do this. As plant matter decays methane is created from the decomposition process, its nature at work.

I don’t know that the volumes produced would be worth the cost of capturing it, but someone could look into the feasibility of it. Greenies would probably shut it down, as destroying the planet.


26 posted on 11/22/2010 11:00:07 AM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: Thermalseeker

Exactly.


27 posted on 11/22/2010 11:01:44 AM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: Thermalseeker
These people remind me of a 5 year old who just discovered something they think is magical and want to tell everybody about it...

Alexander Pope could explain it to them:

A little learning is a dangerous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring.
There shallow drafts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.

28 posted on 11/22/2010 11:03:24 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: shove_it; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv
Gas locked inside Siberia's frozen soil and under its lakes has been seeping out since the end of the last ice age 10,000 years ago. But in the past few decades, as the Earth has warmed, the icy ground has begun thawing more rapidly, accelerating the release of methane — a greenhouse gas 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide — at a perilous rate.

AGW* is REAL and ACCELRATING at a perilous rate! We need to act NOW, and DECISIVELY, to reverse the trend, or we are all DOOMED!

Please, PLEASE do all you can to responsibly combat AGW*!

Thank you!

* AGW = Al Gore's Wailing

29 posted on 11/22/2010 11:07:57 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease caused by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus)
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To: shove_it

Why don’t these same scientists go to the Amazone region and measure the production of methane gas per square mile. Don’t they know that wherever vegetation undergoes the rotting process, methane is a byproduct.

Even the idiot scientists themselves will become methane sources some day.


30 posted on 11/22/2010 11:19:25 AM PST by 353FMG (In the end, it will be either ISLAM or America -- it can never be both. Choose NOW!)
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To: proud_yank

*** You can go to many marshes, ponds and small lakes and do this. As plant matter decays methane is created from the decomposition process, its nature at work. ***

It’s useless to try to introduce logic into the psyches of the earth worshippers, but it makes sense to capture the methane, if possible, refine it as necessary and let people use it meet their needs. This way, there is control over its introduction into the “climate”. (sigh)


31 posted on 11/22/2010 11:20:47 AM PST by chickadee
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To: ApplegateRanch

LOL !!!


32 posted on 11/22/2010 11:35:07 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Thermalseeker
since 23 times zero is zero

Just don't divide by zero. Then we would all be in trouble.

33 posted on 11/22/2010 11:35:42 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: shove_it

Yes, just imagine if millions of square miles of land now virtually locked up by ice and snow most of the year in Canada and Russia were suddenly habitable. Oh, what a horrible thought. (smirk)


34 posted on 11/22/2010 12:21:53 PM PST by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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35 posted on 11/22/2010 1:17:37 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: chickadee
My thought as well — this could be a windfall for the Russians. Combustible gas bubbling out of the ground — they don't even need to drill!
36 posted on 11/22/2010 7:16:26 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: T. P. Pole

http://ilaughilose.weblog.com/you-sob-you-just-divided-by-zero-didnt-you/


37 posted on 11/22/2010 10:19:02 PM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: chickadee

True, though it is enjoyable to get them wound up.

I can’t say for certain, but I would doubt that methane produced from marshes/ponds would be economically feasible to recover.

In the arctic tundra, there are methane hydrates that form below ground. Basically they are a mixture of frozen methane gas and water/ice. (You can observe a similar phenomenon if you put a gas tank outside in the winter and slightly crack the vent. Hydrates will form around the vent as vapors escape, mix with water vapor in the air and freeze.)

Greenies try and claim that because of globalwarming/climatechange/abruptclimatedisruption/etc, the permafrost is melting and more methane gas is liberated to the atmosphere and we are going to die a painful death quicker because of it. A down-ward spiral of doom. There could be feasible ways to drill and recover this, that would be economically viable.

I work in the Arctic, trust me, its cold :-)


38 posted on 11/22/2010 11:22:12 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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23 times zero, is, uh, uh, wait a second...

:’)


39 posted on 11/23/2010 3:52:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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We’re all gonna die.


40 posted on 11/23/2010 5:59:21 PM PST by TheOldLady (The only way to run our country is conservatively.)
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