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To: goldstategop

Clyburn is already Democrat Whip.
Normally, under such a scenario, the former Speaker steps down completely and retires either immediately, or soon after.
Everyone else would keep their position (assuming there are no other resignations.)

But Pelosi is shameless and impervious to public humiliation.
So she will gladly swallow the demotion, and Nanzi gets what Nanzi wants from the idiotic and pliable House Democrats.

So with Nanzi taking Steny’s job, and everyone else keeping theirs, Hoyer is the odd man out. Which is just how Nanzi and the progressives want it.
Hoyer is Pelosi’s long running rival, and she has figured out a way to dispatch him once and for all.

Hoyer was only Majority leader to keep the Blue Dogs in line and on the reservation and with a near extinct Blue Dog caucus, his services are no longer needed, and he has no base in the Democrat caucus left to support him.

The progressives in far Left districts are all that are left, and the Leftist leaders like Pelosi refuse to take responsibility for the historic defeat. Instead, they have blamed the Blue Dogs. And since only progressives are left, they will choose to believe the excuse that leaves progressives blameless. And so they will punish Hoyer, not Pelosi. The only question that remains is if Hoyer, seeing his leadership career over, retires. I suspect so.

This is absolutely delicious. And to sweeten it even more, all the defeated Blue Dogs have written a letter to the Democrat caucus imploring them to dump Pelosi. The Lame Duck session is likely to be consumed by Democrat infighting and recriminations. The Blue Dogs are going to spend the session trying to sabotage Pelosi.


17 posted on 11/09/2010 4:25:32 AM PST by counterpunch ("Some election nights are more fun than others" - Baraq Hussein 0bama)
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To: counterpunch; goldstategop

Good analysis CP.

Right now the Cong. Progressive Caucus makes up nearly 40% of the Dem. Reps. That percentage has grown not shrunk with this election.

The Congressional Dems are more socialistic than ever. If Hoyer goes, though, especially if it is a bad blood situation, we benefit as we’ll be able to peel off more moderate Dems.

Now, we get to benefit from “bi-partisanship”. This further bloodies Obama.

Watch for the media capons to work hard to split up the GOP, particularly in the Senate. They’ve already tried to get us to hate Kirk.


22 posted on 11/09/2010 4:53:41 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: counterpunch

Not sure about the last paragraph but the entire rest of your commentary is on the money.

Hoyer if you recall ran against Miss Madam for the job, and lost. She is a bitter old lefty and such insolence was not to be tolerated. Remember her call for civility, right, Nazi the civil.

Clyburn will be an excellent example for any conservative to attack, he is beyond a racist, he simply hates white people, and probably any other minority that tries to out do his base in handouts. Unfortunately guys like him and people like Miss Madam are far too strong in their base, like Bwaney Frank, to be removed so we just have to maginalize them or just let them do it for us. The best way it to ensure the dems never ever take control of the house again.


23 posted on 11/09/2010 5:01:49 AM PST by Mouton
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